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   Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Updated product-filter form

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OK .. how's this ..

    http://dita.xml.org/products

(need to add descriptions for some DITA and CMS items, but I have to run 
out now)

...scott


JoAnn Hackos wrote:

>Hi Scott,
>I think Bruce's list on CMSs is workable. Localization/translation
>vendor supports is probably a separate item. You might want to include
>them as a separate category.
>
>JoAnn 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Prentice [mailto:sp@leximation.com] 
>Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:39 AM
>To: Esrig, Bruce (Bruce)
>Cc: dita-fa-edboard@lists.xml.org
>Subject: Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Updated product-filter form
>
>Good suggestions .. versioning can go, but I do think that workflow is 
>important since it's not always part of the system. I guess the question
>
>is, how detailed should we get in this? More details may provide more 
>information, but when does it get to be too much? I have no problem 
>adding Bruce's suggestions (that built on JoAnn's) .. is this enough of 
>a CMS breakdown? What about localization/translation?
>
>I'm not clear what is defined as a feature vs. included .. are they 
>equally balanced? It's already a pretty big list and if the features 
>column is much longer than the included column, it may not make sense ..
>
>can you provide an example listing?
>
>Services looks good .. I'll get started on that while we refine the 
>Products items.
>
>Thanks!
>
>...scott
>
>
>Esrig, Bruce (Bruce) wrote:
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>>Comments to build on JoAnn's feedback (below), which she intended for
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>this list.
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>>Content management (based on a database, includes map-level and
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>topic-level linking and link management)
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>>CMS integration (includes unique IDs, local navigation of remote links)
>>Workflow management (ability to set state within a workflow) <!-- omit?
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>-->
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>>Workflow automation (dependencies, triggers, actions)
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>>============
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>>Could we try the list of checkboxes as a two-column table (Feature /
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>Includes) ?
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>>============
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>>Services area:
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>>   OASIS member      
>>   Training
>>   Consulting
>>   Implementation
>>   Getting started
>>   Terminology (term management, taxonomy, ontology, indexing)
>>   Information architecture (structural design for collections of
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>topics)
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>>   DITA specialization (expertise in customizing DITA)
>>   Domain specialization (expertise in applying DITA within a domain)
>>   XSL/XSLT customization
>>   Ant customization
>>   Product extensions (FrameMaker plugins, XMetaL development, .. ??)
>>
>>============
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>>JoAnn wrote:
>>
>>Content management also has devisions
>>Version control is a standard of CM systems 
>>Workflow management is almost a standard
>>
>>But breaking out version control doesn't make sense to me. No CMS lacks
>>version control. It's one of the core functions and we're not learning
>>anything about the product by asking for this. There are other
>>characteristics of a CMSs that are more important. Like unique Ids
>>generated by the system put into every file. Like a database underlying
>>the CMS, not a file server system. Like being able to support DITA maps
>>in the repository. Like link control and reporting. 
>>
>>Anyway -- I recommend removing version control at the least.
>>
>>JoAnn
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Scott Prentice [mailto:sp@leximation.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:39 PM
>>To: dita-fa-edboard@lists.xml.org
>>Subject: [dita-fa-edboard] Updated product-filter form
>>
>>
>>Hi...
>>
>>I've moved the filtering forms to the main Products and Services
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>(rather 
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>>than being on their own pages), something like this ..
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>>   http://dita.xml.org/products-services
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>>I've updated the Product filtering form, see the following URL for an 
>>example (I'll move it to the real page once we finalize the terms) ..
>>
>>   http://dita.xml.org/products
>>
>>This includes all of the dita-specific fields that we discussed at the 
>>meeting this morning. Please look it over and let me know if you want
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>to 
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>>change anything (no nits too small to pick). Note that this form won't 
>>work properly just yet since I haven't set up the corresponding vocab 
>>terms yet.
>>
>>For Services, here are the "features" I was thinking of using ..
>>
>>   OASIS member      
>>   XSL development
>>   Ant development    
>>   DITA specializations
>>   System setup    
>>   Training
>>   Consulting
>>   Development
>>   Product augmentation (FrameMaker plugins, XMetaL development, ..
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>??)
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>>Please let me know if you have any additions/corrections/objections ..
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>?
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>>The Resource Directory is all set up and ready to go. I've migrated all
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>>of the items to individual nodes and assigned the terms as it seemed 
>>appropriate ..
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>>   http://dita.xml.org/resource-directory
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>>All of the items in the resource directory will have my name on them 
>>(scottp), I can reassign them to the appropriate owners as needed. (I 
>>assigned the "Introduction to DITA" to Jen). Let me know if you see any
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>>problems with this.
>>
>>One issues that I've run into ..
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>>- The "URL" fields for the Products, Services, and Resources items all 
>>tack on the "http://"; prefix regardless of the actual value of that 
>>field. So .. none of the links work since they are all 
>>"http://http://www.blahblah.com";. I thought about entering the URLs 
>>without the "http://"; .. but I'm assuming this is a bug that can be 
>>fixed since most people are going to enter the full URL and won't
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>notice 
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>>that the link doesn't work.
>>
>>...scott
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