RE: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation

["JoAnn Hackos" <joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com>]

Hi Carol,
I'm almost back from a long international trip. We're starting the DITA
Boot Camp tomorrow in Wakefield. I'll be able to get to the xml.org site
questions when I'm back in the office. Flew in from Stockholm yesterday.

JoAnn 


JoAnn T. Hackos, PhD
President
Comtech Services, Inc.
710 Kipling Street, Suite 400
Denver CO 80215
303-232-7586
joann.hackos@comtech-serv.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Geyer [mailto:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:57 PM
To: 'DITA Editorial Board'
Cc: 'Neil Joseph Schelly'; 'Greg Rundlett'
Subject: RE: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation

DITA EdBoard,
We seem to have consensus that installing
http://drupal.org/project/nodewords
would be good, but if we do, who would use it and how? 

Would the EdBoard assign nodewords just for our major pages? 

Would we expect authors to insert their own nodewords when they create a
page? 

I just want to be sure we don't add to the complexity of creating a
page--especially after we have the categories module installed.

--c

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Doyle [mailto:bobdoyle@skybuilders.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:45 PM
To: Carol Geyer
Cc: DITA Editorial Board
Subject: Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation

Hi Carol,

You certainly should.  I use robots.txt for my clients.

It prevents the search engines from wasting time crawling extraneous
content.

Together with an accurate sitemap.xml file, these two best practices
instruct the engines to find where the good stuff is. 

Take a peek at http://www.ditausers.org/sitemap.xml and
http://www.robots.txt as an example.

Using Google Webmaster Tools, you can see how your site pages really get
improved Quality Scores when you follow their advice. 
http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/

Cheers.

Bob.





 


On 10/4/07, Carol Geyer <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org> wrote:

	Okay, I'll ask Neil again.
	
	He was looking at Drupal's nodewords module
	http://drupal.org/project/nodewords. It would allow us to set
descriptions for
	every page, plus give us a lot more control over things like
robots.txt files
	to specifically disallow friendly search engines from indexing
certain content.
	He wasn't sure we'd actually use it. Would we?
	
	--c
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Bruce Esrig [mailto:esrig-ia@esrig.com]
	Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:22 PM
	To: Carol Geyer; 'Bob Doyle'
	Cc: 'DITA Editorial Board' 
	Subject: RE: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation
	
	It's not just for SEO.
	
	The description in the meta tag shows up in abstracts in some
search results.
	
	Bruce
	
	At 06:01 PM 10/4/2007, Carol Geyer wrote: 
	>Bob,
	>Thanks for the feedback on the tweaks. The teasers on the
homepage are not
	>just
	>blogs, they're the most recent new posts of any kind. We can
make them just
	>blogs if we want--and/or publish more or less of them. It's
pretty easy to 
	>configure.
	>
	>As for the meta description, Neil feels that meta tags are
largely ignored by
	>search engines these days. They're most often used by sites
trying to
	>artificially inflate their search engine rankings. He feels the
best way 
	>to get
	>good search engine rankings is to have good content, that other
sites link to
	>as good content, and to link to other good content.
	>
	>Thanks,
	>Carol
	>
	>
	>
	>
	>-----Original Message-----
	>From: Bob Doyle [mailto:bobdoyle@skybuilders.com]
	>Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:49 PM
	>To: Carol Geyer
	>Cc: DITA Editorial Board 
	>Subject: Re: [dita-fa-edboard] Tweaking the navigation
	>
	>Hi Carol,
	>
	>I like the action/task orientation of browse - conribute, etc.
	>
	>I also like the title bar, where you incorporate the full
tagline of the 
	>website.
	>
	>Now get Neil to add that tagline to the meta description.
	>
	>I like the full tease from five blog posts instead of the
lonely titles we
	>have
	>on DITA.XML.org <http://DITA.XML.org> .
	>
	>Search in upper right would be a distinct improvement.
	>
	>Cheers.
	>
	>Bob.
	>
	>
	>On 10/4/07, Carol Geyer < carol.geyer@oasis-open.org
<mailto:carol.geyer@oasis-open.org> > wrote:
	>
	>         When you have a minute, please take a look at
	> http://bpel.xml.org. This
	>focus
	>         area is still under construction, but I used the space
to
play 
	> around a
	>bit
	>         with the FA navigation in an effort to encourage
contributions
	> and make
	>it
	>         easier for people to quickly understand what's on the
site.
	> Instead of 
	>         organizing around "Knowledge base, Today, and Wiki",
we give
people
	>ways of
	>         interaction--Browse, Contribute, Discuss, Syndicate.
	>
	>         The wiki pages are the only Drupal "book" on the site,
so
users can 
	>easily add
	>         new pages into the outline. The outline will be
displayed in
full at
	>         http://bpel.xml.org/wiki-pages .
	>
	>         The homepage body features teasers of the five most
recent
pages. We 
	>can make
	>         our current <soapbox> article "sticky" so it's always
the
first.
	>
	>         We could eliminate or reduce the horizontal orange
rule and
move
	>everything up 
	>         a bit.
	>
	>         We could move the Search box to the upper right corner
and
move
	> "About
	>this
	>         site" into the footer.
	>
	>         Please let me know what you think. 
	>
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