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   Re: Still quizzing Microsoft on minimization

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  • From: Sean Mc Grath <digitome@iol.ie>
  • To: xml-dev@ic.ac.uk
  • Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:56:35 GMT

>> From: Sean Mc Grath <digitome@iol.ie>
>> The </> minimisation is used in the DSO examples that come with msxml 1.8
>> and still parse with msxml.
>> >Thanks for catching the error.  That copy is out-of-date.  I'll send a note
>> >to Dr. Gui and ask for it to be fixed.
[Rick Jellife]
>Why call this an error?  Why not just clearly label it as syntax which is
>not valid or WF XML, but can be allowed in SGML.

Of course this is valid SGML that is not the point! The point
is that 10 examples of Dynamic HTML are used to illustrate some pretty
cool *XML* functionality using an applet called *XML*dso in a product
called ms*XML*. The applet lives is com.ms.*XML*.dso.*XML*DSO.class.
The readme HTML file is called *XML*dso.HTM. IT contains 20 references
to the word *XML* and is entitled:-

"Demo: Microsoft *XML* Data Source Object Applet
The com.ms.*xml*.dso package contains an applet called *XML*DSO that can be
used as an *XML* data provider in conjunction with the data binding features
of Internet Explorer 4.0. for binding *XML* data to HTML element on the page.

Are you seriously suggesting that someone new to XML will not construe </>
as legit. XML
syntax as a result of being impressed (as I was) with the DSO stuff?

I think MSXML is a great piece of work. But as someone making a living
in this field I am kinda anxious to see the standard hold water and get
without feature creep.

 That way people know
>it is not strange or naughty to use it if they need to, it is just not XML.
>So take it out of the XML examples, but not the msxml parser (or put it in
>a conditional section to allow a parser called "mssgml" as well from the 
>same code base). 
>The idea that one syntax (i.e. XML) is good for all documents is as
>bad as saying that there can be one DTD for all documents. SGML allows
>many variant syntaxes, and even its labarynths don't go nearly far
>enough to give everyone what they need. XML is a good markup syntax
>for the rest of us, but not the answer to all needs.
>Rick Jelliffe
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