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   Re: XML-DEVIL Proposal - was Open Standards Processes

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  • From: "Don Park" <donpark@quake.net>
  • To: <xml-dev@ic.ac.uk>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:58:52 -0700

>Cute idea, but it won't accomplish what you want.  You would have to
>incorporate and set up legal employment contracts with all your
>"employees", and then all the employees of the corporation would be
>legally bound to respect the confidentiality of the W3C work in
>progress just like the employees of the current W3C members are.  So
>there goes your free and open public discussion.  And you could say
>goodbye to the right to speculate in newsgroups or public lists like

If I understand the requirements correctly, all types of organizations are
allowed to be a member of W3C.  It includes commercial, educational,
government agencies.  Nothing indicates that it excludes industry
association.  Having to become an employee of XML-Devil Inc. seems like a
subversion and I do not feel right doing that.  I would like to be able to
do this without having to sell myself out.

I was not planning to have open public discussions, XML-Devils will have our
own closed mailing list where we will discuss the issues and submit comments
and proposals to W3C.  Anyone breaking the confidentiality agreement will
lose the membership.  One of us will be elected to represent us in the W3C
Advisory Committee.

What we, the independent XML developers, offer could be what W3C needs to
remain truely vendor-neutral.  Netscape, JavaSoft, and others can probably
balance Microsoft within W3C but there is currently nothing except good
judgement to balance the needs of large corporations and small developers.
I do not like being dependent on other people's judgement.  I do not want to
be a bystander while big boys play politics on the supposedly level ground.

What we are trying to do will not have negative impact on W3C activities.
We are all professional developers and we will strive to be an integral part
of W3C.  It would be best if W3C offered special membership to a
self-governing group of independent developers.

Meanwhile, I will take a look at what OASIS offers as you suggested.  Thank
you for taking the time to respond in length.

To XML-DEV list members: I appologize that I have accidentally touched a raw
nerve and ended up starting a flame/crusade of sort.  We will be winding
down the discussions here soon so please have patience.  Sorry, Peter.


Don Park

PS: I would like to change the proposed name to XML-DEV Independent Lobby
rather than LogHead which is similar in concept but less professional :-).

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