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   Re: coming clean with the SGML crowd (was re: namespaces)

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  • From: matt@veosystems.com
  • To: tbray@textuality.com
  • Date: 10 Sep 1998 17:23:30 -0700
  • Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:23:30 -0700 (PDT)

Tim,

Given how you suggested people do validation with the current NS
proposal, it will be difficult to convince anyone that much thought
was given to validation in preparing it.  I, of course, know better,
but an outsider looking at your recommended validation algorithm would
not be totally without justification in interpreting it as saying we
consider validation so important we will make it as difficult as
possible without making it outright IMpossible. :-)

Matthew

> 
> At 06:32 PM 9/10/98 -0400, Richard L. Goerwitz III wrote:
> 
> >It's unbelievable, but people are already talking about legacy XML and
> >about the abandonment of SGML.  Is it any wonder that vendors like Micro-
> >soft seem to be sitting on the fence?  We have some people who declare
> >firmly that DTDs are the only accepted schema/validation mechanism.  And
> >we have other louder, stronger voices who are already declaring them dead.
> 
> I'd like to disagree with the perception that people are not in favor of
> validation.  Early users of XML, it seems, typically want *more* validation
> than SGML offers, rather than less.  That's why there's so much energy going 
> into the early stages of the new-schema design.  Yes, we need DTDs, but also, 
> we need more, and we need it PDQ.  -Tim
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