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  • From: "warren" <xml@globalrobotics.com>
  • To: "'Mark D. Anderson'" <mda@discerning.com>, <xml-dev@ic.ac.uk>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:43:26 +1300

Hi,

[IMHO]...

 I am a technology consultant for an innovative web solutions company.
Currently we are defining a road
map to an extensible standards platform (xml java etc).

 You are correct in the functionality the user requires
and from examining the specs we believe that this is
definitely possible, however what is currently
lacking is a functional product... a browser(scriptable operating system)!

 We believe that we require something along the lines of... a WYSIWYG xsl
editor/displayer, retrieving xml data by xql. the editor [DOM] would then
parse & validate and via namespaces allow custom written java components to
render or compute the tag/elements.

 This allows developers to create full component based web applications,
page-masters to create full print quality & graphics & multimedia web
content, while at the same time allowing a user to customize their stock
quotes into an easily understandable presentation.

 But why wait for MS to implement this into IE5 etc.  Simply an application
to leverage these standards is all we want... let independent solution
developers do the rest..

 There are several other areas that we are investigating such as message
delivery and interprocess communication. if you are in the same boat as I
am, I would like to hear you opinions.

regards,

Warren.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk [mailto:owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk]On Behalf Of
Mark D. Anderson
Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 6:29 AM
To: xml-dev@ic.ac.uk
Subject: using xml/xsl/dom together


related to the "where are we" thread, i'm wondering if there
is enough in xml/xsl/dom to have a web page where a user can
click on their desired appearance, and the page re-arranges, suppresses
undesired content, and perhaps changes style?
all on the client side? (i mean in theory based on specs).

furthermore, could the xml have links inside, and based on the
chosen style, the UA would decide to load and embed (or not)
the linked-to resources?

this capability roughly happens all the time on web sites
(user "personalization"), but it isn't interactive on the page,
and requires a roundtrip to the server every time to go fetch
some pre-formatted html.

i've read the 3 specifications, but i'm still at a loss how
this (to me) relatively simple application could be built.

if there is an example somewhere that shows this, just point me
at it. i realize the real-world client-side implementations are quite
there yet (does ie5 have enough?), but i'm unclear even how
we are *supposed* to tie these things together, particularly
when my xml documents will typically be split into several
underlying files, none of which will have a specified style sheet.
and do i have to wait for action/behavior sheets before there
is an easy way to combine my scripting of the DOM with xsl?

thanks.

-mda



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