xml-dev - RE: XSL and the semantic web

[Marc.McDonald@Design-Intelligence.com]

(forgot to put in previous reply)

Basically, don't use rendering as an means of filtering (maybe I read too
much into the use of H3 and P elements). 

It is certainly valid to filter the XML elements sent out, though that might
be done on the production side, i.e. the application that produces the XML
form in the first place rather than passing it through XSLT.

Marc B McDonald
Principal Software Scientist
Design Intelligence, Inc
www.design-intelligence.com <http://www.design-intelligence.com> 


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	From:  David Brownell [SMTP:david-b@pacbell.net]
	Sent:  Monday, June 21, 1999 3:35 PM
	To:  Marc McDonald
	Cc:  xml-dev@ic.ac.uk
	Subject:  Re: XSL and the semantic web

	Marc.McDonald@Design-Intelligence.com wrote:
	> 
	> I think the point was that <H3>Joe</H3> has lost the fact that
	>'Joe' was a name (<name>Joe</name>), and similarly with the
	> phone number.

	I read that just fine.  And as I said, you don't have any kind
	of entitlement or right to such information, so it's no use to
	base any arguments on such an entitlement. 

	For example, there are risks to society in making it too easy
	for people to find out information about other folk.  It makes
	it easy to perform identity theft, invade privacy, etc.  The
	very example (a semantic web search) you used to motivate your
	desire for this representation came across to me as a powerful
	reason to avoid what you're arguing in favor of!


	> Looks to me like grasping at straws to justify FO model.

	... or to attack it!  In fact, I never mentioned FOs, the
	points I was making apply to _any_ element vocabulary used
	to deliver information.  They will be used to filter out data,
	and hide it in less accessible forms, since organizations
	MUST do that.  The more sensitive the data, the more work
	will be (or at least should be!) put into filtering it out
	or hiding it.

	- Dave

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