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- From: Ketil Z Malde <email@example.com>
- To: "Steven Livingstone, ITS, SENM" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Date: 29 Jun 1999 12:21:10 +0200
"Steven Livingstone, ITS, SENM" <email@example.com> writes:
> One thing that (at least the ones I have looked at so for) is common in them
> is the XMl Notepad look - i.e. A line with a couple of tags and space to
> insert your text.
Well, since you include my latest rant, you probably know that I view
that as a feature :-)
> To me it seems that this is pretty much the only way you could do this, but
> feedback I have had from people not knowledgeble about XML is that they
> don't consider them serious editors (although I happily work with them).
What criteria do they suggest?
> I imagine some intelligent package which knew where you were in a
> particular document and, working with a DTD, could provide you with a list
> of possible tags which could be applied and relevent attributes
While I'd hesitate to recommend something as complex as XEmacs to
somebody not familiar with it or another Emacs-derivative, I'll
describe briefly how it works in psgml-mode.
Psgml is rather daunting, it handles a lot of sgml-declaration stuff,
and it does folding, cursor movement based on document structure, etc.
You really only need to have a couple of commands to get started,
+ Insert element (either placing the cursor within it, or enclosing a
marked region, and of course with completion of valid elements,
insertion of required subelements, prompting for required attribute
values, etc etc)
+ Finding trouble spots (i.e. places where validation fails)
And, if you juggle DTD's,
+ Rereading the DTD (actually, reading and parsing the prolog)
The rest of it can be dug out of the online help. :-)
I think that what I miss most is automatic display of comments in
element declarations in the DTD in the completion listings. I.e. I
want to insert an element, type TAB to list completions, and get the
list - but I would like to see comments as well. In particular, the
HTML DTDs seem nicely commented, and I think I've seen this kind of
support in commercial editors (Adept?).
Obviously, I don't miss it enough to implement it :-)
> Of course the DTD would have to be provided as a template for the
> user (as would any style sheets).
Yeah, some form of style sheets would be nice. Writing them is a lot
of work, however, and a rendering engine would be even harder.
HTML-mode is derived from psgml-mode, and has a few style issues
hardwired into it, but while that works nicely for HTML, it isn't a
good, general solution.
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
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