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   Re: ATTN: Please comment on XHTML (before it's too late)

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  • From: "Braden N . McDaniel" <braden@endoframe.com>
  • To: Ann Navarro <ann@webgeek.com>
  • Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:50:46 -0400

On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:27:42 Ann Navarro wrote:
> At 05:22 PM 8/29/99 -0400, Braden N . McDaniel wrote:
> >Creating an HTML 4.0 document that will be butchered by today's browsers 
> >is a snap. There are elements that remain unrecognized in the popular 
> >browsers. EMBED, which is part of no HTML spec, remains more popular on 
> >the Web than OBJECT simply because it works better. That's how it's less a 
> >reality than HTML 3.2.
> If you have to reach for EMBED and OBJECT for examples, I can't by any 
> stretch call this a failure.

Citing a tag as commonly used as EMBED isn't a reach by any means. The lack of a W3C-specified alternative with working implementations is a significant failure. But you want more examples?

ABBR isn't recognized. Q isn't handled correctly. THEAD, TFOOT, TBODY, COL, and COLGROUP are only available in IE, among the popular browsers.

> Nearly the entire HWG site is written in valid HTML 4.0 (and CSS) and it 
> doesn't fail at all (www.hwg.org)

And just how many constructions does it use that don't also appear in HTML 3.2?

> It can be done, and it's not at all hard.

Not the issue. The issue is that it's far too easy to create HTML 4 documents that *don't* display correctly in current browsers.

Braden N. McDaniel

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