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  • From: "Jeffrey E. Sussna" <jes@kuantech.com>
  • To: "'Eve L. Maler'" <elm@east.sun.com>,<xml-dev@ic.ac.uk>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:20:23 -0800

Well, you need both. You need the shared concept of "author" and the shared
representation of an instance of that concept. XML specs of various kinds
are trying to define shared representations at various semantic layers. Both
vertical and horizontal vocabulary efforts (Dublin Core, BizTalk, etc.) are
required to complete the equation.

Jeff

P.S. Please don't bash me for mentioning BizTalk. It was an arbitrary
example.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk
> [mailto:owner-xml-dev@ic.ac.uk]On Behalf Of
> Eve L. Maler
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 4:01 PM
> To: xml-dev@ic.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: Some questions
>
>
> At 03:46 PM 12/1/99 -0800, Tim Bray wrote:
> >Because the same data structures and usage patterns keep
> coming back across
> >wide ranges of metadata applications, even though the world
> isn't about
> >to agree on common vocabularies.  So there are huge gains to
> be had from
> >a common data model and transfer syntax. -Tim
>
> Not that I don't respect RDF's power, but personally, I think
> the key *is*
> common vocabularies.  We may have to start small, and they
> may just be hub
> formats that get mapped to/from a lot, but agreeing on
> semantics is the
> pill that has to be swallowed.  Even RDF depends on this,
> particularly on
> an open system such as the Web where you can't really control
> or influence
> the habits of content creators.  If you want to indicate that
> you are the
> author of a certain page, at the very least you have to refer
> to a widely
> understood "author" semantic in order for author-criterion
> searching to be
> of any use to your audience.  Whether it's an RDF property or
> a well-known
> namespace or whatever doesn't seem to matter as much.
>
>          Eve
> --
> Eve Maler            Sun Microsystems
> elm @ east.sun.com    +1 781 442 3190
>
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