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   Re: WG's responding to XML-DEV (was Re: What is wrong with SVG?)

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  • From: Peter Murray-Rust <peter@ursus.demon.co.uk>
  • To: "'XML-DEV \(E-mail\)'" <xml-dev@xml.org>
  • Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 15:46:17 +0000

At 23:21 05/03/00 -0500, Michael Champion wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter Murray-Rust" <peter@ursus.demon.co.uk>
>To: "'XML-DEV (E-mail)'" <xml-dev@xml.org>
>Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 6:23 PM
>Subject: RE: What is wrong with SVG?
>> In the present case there is probably no real point in discussing the
>> details of SVG *on XML-DEV*. WGs will not normally take notice, unless
>> there is so much clamour in the commons that it seems politic. There may
>> a point in discussing some issues that are generic or cross more than one
>> spec. So if a number of W3C specs had attribute values or content that
>> require microparsing it could be useful to raise it here. It is unlikely
>> that there would be a direct response.
[... useful argument snipped ...]

>I don't follow SVG closely, but I would encourage people to debate the
>"subelements vs microparsing" issue publicly, marshall whatever evidence can
>be obtained on each side, and make SURE that the WG responds if it appears
>that they are on the wrong track here.  SVG is far too critical to the Web
>to allow it to be suboptimal.  Likewise if the inefficiency of the DOM is
>part of the problem here, that should be addressed  (perhaps with a hybrid
>push/pull model or a "flyweight" mini-Node), not force  people to kludge

>around it. The only practical way to figure out whether the SVG and/or DOM
>specs need to be improved is for *lots* of people to analyze and critique
>them, and the XML-DEV subscribers are probably the only semi-organized group
>in the world qualified to do so.

I have also had a private mail suggesting that discussion of this aspect
would be valuable and so my initial posting should not be seen as too
"directional". Let XML-DEV - not me - take this discussion where it wants
to go. One aspect might be how we track the informal traffic between
XML-DEV and the WGs - at present we mainly guess and talk at those meetings
we happen to be able to attend.


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