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   Names of Human Beings (was: XML DTD Creation)

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  • From: John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>
  • To: Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@netcom.com>
  • Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:58:27 -0400

On Wed, 17 May 2000, Christopher R. Maden wrote:

> What I've found works best is treating names as mixed content.  Mark
> up the interesting bits and put them in natural order.
> <name><given>John</given> <family>Cowan</family></name>
> <name><family>Murata</family> <given>Makoto</given></name>
> <name><given>J.</given> <middle>Walter</middle> <family>Winchell</family>
> <suffix>III</suffix></name>

The trouble with this design is that it's hard to get it general enough
to be correct, and questionable whether you are getting anywhere if you
do.  What will an application do with <name><given>Muhammad</given>
<patronymic>ibn Ali</patronymic> <avonymic>ibn Tewfiq</avonymic>
<clan>al-Shabazz</clan> <title>el-Hajji</title><name> that justifies
all that detailed markup?

Basically there are two methods on names, sorting them and displaying them.
One element for each does the job.

Eric Bohlman wrote:
> <name><given>Enrique</given><middle>Jose</middle>
> <family><matronym>Martin</matronym><patronym>Morales</patronym></family>
> <stage><first>Ricky</first><last>Martin</last></stage></name>

I think we are getting past the realm of names here and into persons.
It is not a property of EJMM's *name* that his stage name is "Ricky Martin";
rather this is a property of the singer *himself*.  He has a legal-name
and a stage-name property, both of which are names.


Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis um dies! || John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>
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Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau,           || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
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