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   RE: XML in .NET - more than just SOAP?

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  • From: David LeBlanc <whisper@oz.net>
  • To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
  • Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:47:30 -0700

I'm wondering to what standard Office's "flavor of HTML" conforms to? This
snippet from a word doc saved as html uses xml namespaces but I can't find a
reference to using xmlns within an <html></html> tag/document:?
<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"

<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document>
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 9">
<meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 9">
<link rel=File-List href="./XTP_files/filelist.xml">
<title>XTP: eXtensible Transport Protocol</title>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>

WRT to "The Office team has not stated any future goals about turning Office
into a
general XML authoring tool". While they may not have, i've heard from people
within MS that Gates was so mad about the "xml support" in Word 2k that
people got fired over it. I have also heard that Gates has said that (at
least) word would be very xml in it's next release (implied "or else").

I somehow kind of doubt that MS will ever emit truely confomant xml, html
etc. So far as I know they have not done so yet on any other standards they
have "embraced and extended". They have a large disencentive to do so since
making interchange/storage formats open would level the playing field and
open Office to competition.

Dave LeBlanc

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lovett [mailto:clovett@microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:13 AM
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: RE: XML in .NET - more than just SOAP?

Let me correct some mis-information floating around this thread.

Office 2000 has never claimed to be an "XML" authoring tool.  The
/ofxml2k.htm page says:

"Microsoft Office 2000 supports Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) as a native
file format. Using HTML, Office documents and data can be stored,
distributed, and presented in a format that can be viewed using most Web
browsers, while retaining the rich content and functionality of Office
documents stored using the traditional companion binary file formats."

Office 2000 generates a flavor of HTML that "can be viewed using mose Web
browsers".  This is the stated goal, nothing more.

Office 2000 does NOT generate XHTML, but as some have noted, it does consume
it ok.
Office 2000 does NOT generate XML.
Office 2000 is not "broken".

General XML authoring was not a stated goal.  It does however embed some
islands of well-formed XML inside the HTML pages.  This is intended for
Office use only.  If you can figure out how to post-process the HTML to
extract and manipulate this XML then more power to you.

The Office team has not stated any future goals about turning Office into a
general XML authoring tool, but there are plenty of ways you can voice your
opinion on this subject.  See

Chris Lovett
Program Manager
WebData Team


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