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   RE: King of Stupid XML Articles?

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  • From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>
  • To: lisarein@finetuning.com, xml-dev@lists.xml.org
  • Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:16:27 -0500

Umm... such a web site would be a fine 
service because then people writing and publishing 
these would know we are paying attention.  But be 
sure what you put there is really off, because otherwise, 
same problem amplified.  (The dicey problem with hypermedia 
is dealing with the amplification effect of feeeeeeeedback.)

The article you cite here is mostly right 
(and it is scary how much the author's photo looks like 
Steve Newcomb...).   XML is overhyped and that 
is how we get the dumb and dumber articles.  
Fact is, XML doesn't care too much about the 
implementation wars, the implementation strategies, 
etc.  There isn't an XMLWay precisely.  XML Doesn't Care. 
We care.  And that is the right way.

What he says about XML front-loading the pain 
is exactly right.  What he says about interoperability 
being a business isssue is precisely right although 
he overemphasizes that as a conspiracy where a good 
CS pro knows it is the server side business objects 
that have to accept the data and do something smart 
with them (a workflow layer on the other side).  These 
are the benefits of lexically unified 
systems with commodity transport protocols.

It isn't magic.  It is consensus on a format 
for making formats that doesn't give a rats 
behind about the politics of platforms.  It is 
a way to negotiate these into a more precise 
layer of concern:  loose shoes, loose clothes, 
loose coupling, laserRazor focus on a process.


That middle bit is hard.


Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti.
Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h

From: Lisa Rein [mailto:lisarein@finetuning.com]

This one has my vote:



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