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Off-Topic: RE: A few things I noticed about w3c's xml-schema

I agree with what you say Len.  However, in the world of XML Yuri stands
out.  I had the privilege of going to the first WWW conference in North
America in Chicago in 1994.  It changed my life - literally.  I was a
civil servant for the Navy working in CALS at the time (Len you will

I met Yuri at this conference for the first time.  He was chairing a
session called 'SGML on the Web'.  At this conference he also announced
Panorama - a free SGML browser for the web.  He had such an impact
on me that I gave up my safe government job with a great pension
and followed him into this crazy world of SGML/XML.  

Yuri saw the benefit of HTML to the SGML world where other SGML leaders
did not.  Most SGML proponents at the time were drug into the XML world
kicking and screaming the entire way.  Not Yuri - he was leading the front
by providing free tools (open source wasn't off the ground at that point
in time) and evangelizing.

I for one feel that if Yuri was still around some cohesiveness and sanity
checks put into place with the proliferation of all the XML specifications
being thrust upon us.


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On Thu, 31 May 2001, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:

> Before we bronze too much, Yuri would point to 
> Charles, and Charles would point to Sharon.  They 
> did not always agree, and they lead in different 
> ways. Two of those people are still leading. We 
> were once a very small community and now we are 
> a considerably larger one and we need and have 
> more leaders.  That is a good thing.  I suspect 
> if you ask Charles or Sharon, you will find 
> they are very proud of this.  Few among us 
> can claim to have dedicated a life to moving 
> a planet, and they did not do it alone.
> I spent last weekend throwing away more literature 
> on SGML than I suspect most people have ever seen. 
> Who remembers OWL?  Who remembers SIGHyper, SMDL?  Who 
> wrote for <TAG>?  Who has a draft 8879 or a copy 
> of Martin Bryan's Author's Guide, or Goldfarb's 
> SGML Handbook?  There is a long history in 
> the markup community.   It is also past.  The 
> work we do now builds on it, but the work is 
> now and future.  The heros we need are above ground.
> Yuri was the face man.  He evangelized and he 
> found talent.  He gave people a sense of self-worth 
> and made them feel like they belonged to something 
> larger, something hopeful and wonderful and fun.
> If Yuri taught me anything, it was eyes forward 
> and people matter.  And laugh as much as you can.
> One should enjoy this great game we play.
> I want mine to say (1954 -   ) for as long as 
> possible.
> Len 
> http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard
> Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti.
> Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Cover [mailto:robin@isogen.com]
> Here's a friendly challenge to the XML 'experts' who now stand upon the
> shoulders of those who preceded them: if you never met Yuri, try to
> read the obituary notices with the guess than you might come away
> unchanged in your inner person.  You probably won't.  XML (SGML
> 'lopped off') stands at the boundary between sanity and insanity, but
> contrary to what one might justifiably conclude from the current
> climate, it's not all about money.  Take the dare (I dare you); there are
> only about 60 items:
> http://xml.coverpages.org/yuriMemColl.html
> What do you want your epitaph to say?
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