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RE: Enlightenment via avoiding the T-word
- From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- To: Leigh Dodds <email@example.com>, Ronald Bourret <firstname.lastname@example.org>,email@example.com
- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:42:14 -0500
While munching on the grass, it is every cows'
privilege to moo. :-)
As said before, it is the way of groves that
makes them interesting. It seems this
saidToBeToComplicated approach is more elegant
and robust than the DidLessSoCan'tDoEnough
Still, I think it is semantic sharing that
is the real bear. Neither computers nor
humans are dependable mind readers and the
well-formed only approach requires that.
I sympathize with what the well-formed only
folks say, but it won't work outside a
limited context of exchange or one in
which all parties are under one authority.
(Who chooses choices dominates design.)
So far, the most sensible bit I've seen
in this thread has been Schemas are not
well-layered with regards to type checking
and name validation. I don't seem to
get into trouble until I attach a namespace
given that I do globalize the names
and as Rick says, rename colliders not
because it is theoretically elegant,
but because it is easy to do and
easier to document. When does this fail?
When I don't get to control the names
and have to exchange blind. Then something
has to give. I can also localize in
the schema and then I only get into trouble
if they don't use my schema.
Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti.
Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h
From: Leigh Dodds [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
I knew if I read down this thread far enough Len would
mention groves! And if he didn't I was going to...
It seems like if you generalise Michael's notions of
attaching generic annotations to the results of a
parse you have a grove. And picking out the parts
relevant to a particular application (or class of
application) is a grove plan.
I know there is a lot of baggage attached to that
particular term, but I've seen suggestion of a similar
mechanism appear time and again. Even in Simpleton circles.