RE: infinite depth to namespaces

["Fuchs, Matthew" <matthew.fuchs@commerceone.com>]

Which was a use case Rick brought up.  While retaining the right to dissent
at a later time - i.e., I haven't thought about it enough - this sounds
reasonable enough.  It certainly falls into the notion of validation being
the addition of constraints to WF.

Matthew

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnold, Curt [mailto:Curt.Arnold@hyprotech.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:58 AM
> To: 'xml-dev@lists.xml.org'
> Subject: RE: infinite depth to namespaces
> 
> 
> > Right.  Which is why, if you're going to use local elements 
> > in a schema, you should make them unqualified, as that works 
> > best with existing software. See my response to Rick.
> 
> I think it depends whether the element is defined locally to 
> enforce a context specific constraint or if the element is 
> defined locally since it has no meaning (or possibly 
> ambiguous meaning) outside
> of its context.
> 
> If, for example, I want to constrain a person element so that 
> it must have at least one child if it appears a <parents> 
> element but the element can appear outside of that outside of 
> that context
> without that constraint, I would suggest the best way to 
> encode that constraint within the current capabilities of XML 
> schema would be to declare a namespace qualified global 
> element without the
> constraint and a local namespace qualified element with the 
> constraint in the appropriate context.
> 
> If <person> has the same meaning and general structure in all 
> uses in a schema but only differs due to constraints due to 
> context, the it is better to have them all qualified so that 
> XSLT and other
> technologies can recognize them as the same concept, instead 
> of totally unrelated concepts.
> 
> > This also shows that best practices need to evolve.  While 
> > "put everything in a namespace" was reasonable best practice 
> > before the arrival of XSDL, the concretization of a notion of 
> > "local elements" (I hesitate to call it
> > "formalization") - just as the Namespaces rec concretized the 
> > notion of "global attribute", which hadn't existed 
> > syntactically before, although people used them - can change 
> > what best practices can be.  And best practices for local 
> > elements is unqualified.
> > 
> > Matthew
> 
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