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RE: Bad News on IE6 XML Support
- From: "Christopher R. Maden" <email@example.com>
- To: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 04:28:37 -0700
At 02:50 9-09-2001, Joshua Allen wrote:
>This is getting pretty ridiculous. IE is not an XML parser, period.
No, you're right. MSXML is an XML parser (or claims to be).
That MSXML has a mode that allows it to parse things that are not XML is
That MSIE delegates the handling of XML entities to MSXML in that mode is
>The XML spec has nothing to say about what the correct behavior of a
No - but the parser is *required* not to "continue normal processing (i.e.,
it must not continue to pass character data and information about the
document's logical structure to the application in the normal
way)." Microsoft *wanted* this language to avoid the bugward-compatibility
wars of 1996-1998. One of the editors of the spec is from Microsoft. Now
that they're in the dominant browser position, we see what that was worth.
I am not usually a big Microsoft fan. But I have openly lauded their
efforts at standards compliance since Jean joined the SGML ERB. Oh, my
friends mocked me - they said it wouldn't last. "Embrace and extend -
it'll all end in tears, you'll see." But I was young and foolish, those
dozens of Internet years ago. Now I see their wisdom, alas, too late.
>That is like
>saying that the UNIX 'cat' command is broke because it does not fatally
>error when encountering a paragraph marker in a text stream that has an
>XML declaration at the beginning, because 'cat' "does not provide any
>mechanism for correction."
Neither Notepad nor cat claims to be a conforming XML application, nor to
include same. MSXML does, as does MSIE. There are substantial bugs that
can impair the long-term health of the content on the Internet. At the
least, Microsoft needs to acknowledge that they are bugs, rather than
arguing that the specification is broken; that's just Humpty Dumpty talk.
And if your assertions about Radio Userland and Manila are accurate, then
they have significant bugs, too. All the glass houses need to be boarded
up, I don't care who's throwing the stones.
Christopher R. Maden, Principal Consultant, HMM Consulting Int'l, Inc.
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