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RE: [xml-dev] Has XML run its course?
- From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- To: David Brownell <email@example.com>
- Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:42:44 -0500
No MS didn't originate the ideas and neither
did the people on this list or the W3C. Those
ideas have their origins in operations research
and are decades old. That is beside the point.
The point is having a working implementation that actually
interoperates. Whether achieved by a one browser
world, blindly HTMLing, or a specification, the
results count, not the origins. MS is at least
running the course instead of trying to get all
the horses on yet another non-existent race track.
A modern surveillance state? How about protection
from the sponsored criminally insane? Note the
inclusion of the qualifiers, "policy mediated
access". The information is already there. We depend
on the very non-interoperability that most of
us are here trying to change to keep it from
being abused. We need a better policy than
"don't worry, the system is stupid" because
that system is changing and we are the ones changing it.
We are making that assertion: XML-Dev. We just don't like to
think about the implications. I prefer a system
by which authorities are able to get information
when they need it under the control of the law
over a Humvee on every corner to protect against
the thousand flowers blooming some of which include
poison. It's like PICS; no one wanted it until
the alternatives were understood.
From: David Brownell [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> I'm betting on MS and .net.
It can't be primogeniture, they didn't originate the ideas.
Perhaps it's monopoly leverage you're betting on...
> It does what is needed immediately. If
> the events of this month have escaped your attention, the one
> thing pointed out in big bold colors is the need for reliable
> policy mediated access to databases in real-time and post event.
Darn, I must have missed that in all the hoopla about how
we need to create the first modern Surveillance State, as
part of being a good role model for the rest of the world.
Were was that assertion hiding? :)