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We violently agree except that to push back against the 
requirements of customers is to ensure that there are 
no real applications for that technologically coherent 
technology.  That is how they end up buying big garbanzo 
bean filled salads of toolkits instead of being able 
to get modular pipelined applications.

In my experience, having an application is the best 
way to trim out the fat of the technology.  For it 
to be ubiquitous, it has to solve a problem everyone 


From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@simonstl.com]

On Wed, 2002-05-22 at 10:52, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> We all have passions, causes, reasonable society enhancing 
> agendas.  XML can be part of that, but I believe that even 
> there, saying a thing is good for its own sake is a dangerous 
> assertion of religious zeal, not common sense.  

Is pursuit of technological coherence (never even mind excellence)
religious zeal?  Does every application need to go through an RFC
process with bidding and contracts to be useful?

XML isn't good for its own sake.  Neither is technology.  But making
sure that the technologies we create actually perform as expected
involves a range of activities that may not be consistent with business

To say that I'm sick and tired of hearing "everybody's doing it, and
there's money in it" as an excuse for pouring resources into specs that 
have little value when examined outside of dollar-sign glasses is an

It's (long past) time for people interested in the technology to push
back against the people interested in the business of technology, even
if that means biting the hand that feeds us.  XML hype seems to be over
- maybe it's time to get XML's technological house in order instead of
chasing the big bucks.


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