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The comments I saw are fair enough for web design but the doctype of the page he
cites as an example (http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/faqs/xml_faq_htmlxml) reads
<!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
which makes barger's comment a bit incomprehensible -
"...and we're supposed to take XHTML seriously???"
At 17/07/2002 15:31:25, "DuCharme, Bob (LNG)" <bob.ducharme@lexisnexis.com>
wrote:
# I'm a fan of robotwisdom.com, but without mentioning him by name, I've often
# used Barger as a case study of someone who really doesn't get XML because
# it's gotten too popular. He sees people who use XML as the hammer to too
# many variations on nails, and it doesn't work well for his variations on
# nails, so he comes to the conclusion that XML is badly designed. In his case
# (not a direct quote, but a summary of his attitude) "XML is terrible for AI
# work! What were the people who designed XML thinking?"
#
# He keeps complaining, but he keeps coming back (e.g. posting to
# comp.text.xml, apparently). Search
# http://www.robotwisdom.com/log2002m06.html for the word "mistake" to find
# his detailed, out-of-left field complaints about an O'Reilly quotation of
# the XML FAQ.
#
# (By the way, anti-XML anti-SGML people must be awfully clever if they can
# hack into a theater's projection system so "quickly.")
#
# Bob DuCharme www.snee.com/bob <bob@
# snee.com> "The elements be kind to thee, and make thy
# spirits all of comfort!" Anthony and Cleopatra, III ii
#
#
# -----Original Message-----
# From: akmal @ city [mailto:akmal@soi.city.ac.uk]
# Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:00 PM
# To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
# Subject: [xml-dev] FWD: Markup-language joke
#
#
# Hi All,
#
# Just saw this on comp.text.xml, posted by Jorn Barger:
#
# <quote>
#
# An SGML fan, an XML fan, and an HTML fan are watching a movie when they
# notice smoke coming out of a trashcan.
#
# The SGML fan says "We must convince the theater management to hire an
# expert to write a DTD for emergency-announcements, and sell them an
# expensive application for archiving announcements, and get them to hire a
# team to convert all their old announcements to SGML!"
#
# The XML fan says, "There's no time for that! We must train all the
# audience members to recognise XML, and then start a committee to
# investigate the possibility of starting negotiations to form a working
# group to write a paper on the future evolution of emergency-announcement
# semantics!"
#
# Meanwhile, the HTML fan takes out his wireless PDA and types in:
#
# <h1><blink><font color=red>FIRE!</font></blink></h1>
#
# which he quickly hacks the digital projection system to display, saving
# the lives of everyone in the theater.
#
# the pragmatic web: http://www.robotwisdom.com/web/pragmatics.html
#
# </quote>
#
# --
# akmal chaudhri
#
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Roger
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