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Title: RE: [xml-dev] Web Services - what is the alternative? (was TAG on HLink)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@simonstl.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2002 12:15 PM
> To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Web Services - what is the
> alternative? (was TAG
> on HLink)
> Rob Griffin asks:
> > Or is the answer that no form of RPC is acceptable?
> I'm not at all opposed to RPC in cases where RPC is appropriate.
> I do, however, consider RPC as something entirely separate from "the
> Web", and "Web Services" in their RPC form as an oxymoron.

I agree. SOAP over HTTP seems to me to be an abuse of HTTP. At the
very least SOAP should use a different port.

> There are lots of alternatives to RPC for a computer-readable
> Web, even
> if they don't come with toolkits - sure, it's work, but I'd rather
> people worked in ways appropriate to the medium they choose
> to use than
> slide through using tools that do what they do without giving
> much of a
> damn for how.  (Will the word at the start of the line set off the
> censorware?)
> For one discussion, see:
> http://simonstl.com/articles/weblike.html
> If you want RPC, there are lots of options.  The Web never
> had to enter
> into that equation, and so far as I can tell, contributes absolutely
> nothing. 

However I'm a consumer in this regard. I don't control both ends of the
connection. What I'm hoping for is a viable alternative that service
providers will want to set up. Web Services have gained a lot of traction
because it is easy (probably too easy) to create, and providers assume
that investing in Web Services will pay off in the long run because Microsoft
is behind it.

Rob Griffin
Software Engineer
Quest Software
2/293 Camberwell Road
Victoria 3124
Phone: 03 98118021
Fax: 03 9811 8099


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