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   Re: [xml-dev] limits of the generic

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> At 06:12 PM 9/27/2002 -0400, Simon St.Laurent wrote:
> > > Is it wrong for SQL or Java to have datatypes?
> >
> >Within their own contexts, no.  Extending those types beyond SQL or 
> >Java processing creates a whole new set of problems that people who
> >use SQL or Java seem to be remarkably bad at recognizing.
> Such as?

That information doesn't always come in neat table/object boxes.

That a set of data types developed for efficient storage in a particular
implementation situation may or may not work in other situations, or,
more generally.

Even getting SQL and Java (or other programming environ) people to agree
about data modeling issues is difficult enough that I can't figure out
where they get the courage to think their values are appropriate for the
rest of the universe.

That the perspectives  of programmers matter more than the opinions of

In short, although I work with both Java and SQL, I do my damndest to
keep those perspectives in their own contexts and not pretend they have
anything at all to do with markup.

Funny thing is, people who can't recognize those boundaries yammer on
and on about how the boundaries don't exist, and keep producing enormous
piles of junk that purport to organize the markup world in ways that
have really not a thing to do with marking up.

I'm tired of it, to say the least.

Simon St.Laurent - SSL is my TLA
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