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   Re: [xml-dev] Re: Microsoft and vector graphics (Was:XDocs and XForms?)

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Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> This won't hunt, Paul.  No one is suggesting that MS will 
> torpedo SVG.  You want to redirect the topic away from 
> the one that disturbs you:  MS and yes, all of us, have 
> options. 

No, I want to direct it away from the topic that bores me. Here's what 
interests me.

You said: "The browser wars are over. The browser lost."

You are wrong on both counts, and that observation is completely 
orthogonal to the issue of XDocs. I don't care to talk more about XDocs 
until it is public.

> 2.  Innovations don't come from one source.  If the 
> libraries are powerful, we may get more innovation than 
> if the lockin constrains us.  Between patents and lockins 
> and fear of the W3C and loathing of the successful, 
> the web is stagnant. 

That's simply incorrect. Here are some points of innovation on the Web:


I agree that even so things are not moving as fast as they were five or 
ten years ago. That's not the same as saying they aren't moving.

> ... Time for fresh thinking not standards.
> Standards cut both ways.  If you want the kind of web 
> development we had five to ten years ago, we will have 
> to break some existing rules.  

The kind of web development we had five to ten years ago was *built* on 
the wide adoption of both de jure and de facto standards. If we are 
advancing slowly today, it is because it has been quite a while since a 
browser vendor took on a meaty new standard like SVG and nobody has 
gotten around to standardizing something like XUL, XBL or HTC.

> ... One of them just might 
> be that the browser, the universal interface, is not the 
> only viable platform.

Nobody ever said it was. It is merely the only platform with the 
features I listed and those features provide a basis for innovation and 

  Paul Prescod


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