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Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> This won't hunt, Paul. No one is suggesting that MS will
> torpedo SVG. You want to redirect the topic away from
> the one that disturbs you: MS and yes, all of us, have
No, I want to direct it away from the topic that bores me. Here's what
You said: "The browser wars are over. The browser lost."
You are wrong on both counts, and that observation is completely
orthogonal to the issue of XDocs. I don't care to talk more about XDocs
until it is public.
> 2. Innovations don't come from one source. If the
> libraries are powerful, we may get more innovation than
> if the lockin constrains us. Between patents and lockins
> and fear of the W3C and loathing of the successful,
> the web is stagnant.
That's simply incorrect. Here are some points of innovation on the Web:
I agree that even so things are not moving as fast as they were five or
ten years ago. That's not the same as saying they aren't moving.
> ... Time for fresh thinking not standards.
> Standards cut both ways. If you want the kind of web
> development we had five to ten years ago, we will have
> to break some existing rules.
The kind of web development we had five to ten years ago was *built* on
the wide adoption of both de jure and de facto standards. If we are
advancing slowly today, it is because it has been quite a while since a
browser vendor took on a meaty new standard like SVG and nobody has
gotten around to standardizing something like XUL, XBL or HTC.
> ... One of them just might
> be that the browser, the universal interface, is not the
> only viable platform.
Nobody ever said it was. It is merely the only platform with the
features I listed and those features provide a basis for innovation and