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I didn't say that.  Their support gets 
it adopted by more companies.  That makes 
it a standard in the sense of the word that 
makes it useful:  running code.   IOW, 
a successful standard.  You are confusing 
specifications (what the W3C produces) with 
standards. The W3C is not an international standards 
organization.  It is a commercial consortium.  It 
sanctions specifications for its dues paying members.

Some people think Java is a standard and they 
are quite comfortable citing all the newest 
dinkum on this list.  Yet Java is a Sun product. 
If I were to take Daniel seriously, I'd have 
to think that only open source products can 
be discussed here.  That would make this a list 
of a business minority instead of XML developers.

She has a point.  MS did markup a big service. 
That is undeniable.   She is excited and trying 
to make a contribution.  Some of you on the other 
hand are proving the point about this being a 
list of mean, frustrated geeks.  

Geeks:  guys who couldn't get laid in high school 
and discovered that the web was a place to act like 
they did.


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert P. J. Day [mailto:rpjday@mindspring.com]

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:

> Actually she has a point.

um ... not really.
> There are many business evaluations of so-called 
> standards that get resolved by saying "Well, Microsoft 
> has implemented it."

microsoft software is not a standard, simply because it
can *never* be a standard, barring some sort of official
international standard organization making it so.

the fact that my wall outlet provides 110V at 60Hz.
that's a standard.  that my bicycle wheels are 700mm.
*that's* a standard.  paper (at least here in north
america) typically coming in 8.5" x 11" or 8.5" x 14".
*that's* a standard.  get the idea?

MS software may be popular.  it may be ubiquitous.
and many corporations have clearly adopted it as their
SW of choice.  that does *not* make it a standard.


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