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- To: "K. Ari Krupnikov" <ari@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>,<xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
- Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Google, Web services and privacy
- From: "Dare Obasanjo" <dareo@microsoft.com>
- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:04:55 -0800
- Thread-index: AcKlLPUn7eIdZXvIQU+UqDqijikQNgAACfZw
- Thread-topic: [xml-dev] Google, Web services and privacy
Shouldn't this be something you email to Google as a
suggestion/complaint or post on Slashdot to start flamewars instead of
posting to XML-DEV? Google has records of your searches if you use their
service, big deal.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: K. Ari Krupnikov [mailto:ari@cogsci.ed.ac.uk]
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:59 AM
> To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
>
> I have a lot of respect for Google. They are the best search
> engine I know of. They have the best Usenet archive I know
> of. They use some of what I consider to be the coolest
> technologies around. And they let you access their data as
> XML, making them one of the few "Web services" that actually
> work. "Google XML API" [1] gives you access to the same data
> that are available through the HTML interface, with the
> important difference that non-interactive user agents are
> allowed and expected [2] to use this service. As with the
> HTML interface, the service is free to users with the minor
> difference that users of the XML API are limited to 1000
> queries per day and 1000 results per query [3] -- neither of
> which seems unreasonable to me; I don't think I ever came
> anywhere near that number using the HTML interface.
>
> To enforce these limits, a service needs to discriminate between users
> -- and indeed an XML API query must include a license key
> assigned to a user when he or she signs up for the service.
> Google's terms of use prohibit acquiring more than one key
> per (human) user[4]; to enforce this, Google tie codes to
> email addresses. Which leads to the observation that with
> the XML API, every Google query is linked directly and
> unambiguously to user identity, whereas an HTML query is only
> linked to an IP address [5].
>
> Do I care if Google know I searched for "offshore exploration oil"?
> No. Do I trust them not to release that fact to, say, Inland
> Revenue or IRS? Yes. Do I like that fact sitting in a
> database somewhere[6] FFU? No.
>
> Ari.
>
>
> [1] http://www.google.com/apis/
> [2] http://www.google.com/apis/api_faq.html#gen6
> [3] http://www.google.com/apis/api_faq.html#gen7
> [4] http://www.google.com/apis/api_faq.html#gen10
> [5] Unlike an IP address which may or may not give hints to
> user identity, a license key is an assertion by the user that
> she is who she claims to be. Using another's id is a
> violation of the terms of service.
> [6] And being XML, the data are likely to outlive the application (TM)
>
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