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   RE: [xml-dev] many-to-many

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Agreed. The resource-is-an-abstraction metaphysics is one of primary
causes of the recent flames sent by Roy on the WWW-TAG list. I'm sure
the REST folks are well aware of it, whether they is aware of the issues
this causes for applications that want to use URIs as unambiguous
identifiers is another issue. 

In any calculation, any error which can creep in will do so.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:35 PM
> To: Rich Salz
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:05:42PM -0500, Rich Salz wrote:
> > >If we dispose of the inconvenient fiction of a "Resource", most of 
> > >the metaphysical hooey surrounding URIs goes away.
> > 
> > I'd like to watch you try, if only so I could watch the heads of 
> > Fielding and the rest of the REST camp explode.
> Oh please.  I doubt it would come as a surprise to anybody in 
> the "REST camp", including Roy, to learn that a resource was 
> an abstraction (though I only realized this relatively 
> recently, because I hadn't thought much about it);
>  "More precisely, a resource R is a temporally varying membership
>   function MR(t), which for time t maps to a set of entities, or
>   values, which are equivalent."
>    -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2000Sep/0030
> Also, see an Alloy model that some folks put together on the 
> RESTwiki that emphasizes that fact;
> http://internet.conveyor.com/RESTwiki/moin.cgi/WebState
> MB
> -- 
> Mark Baker.   Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.        http://www.markbaker.ca
> Web architecture consulting, technical reports, evaluation & analysis
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