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Hi Gerald,
Can't get that apocryphal license plate out of my head - 6UL DV8 (say it
quickly). Maybe we could channel Marvin and prevail upon him for some XUL
healing <chuckle/>
Matt Bennett
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| Subject: [xml-dev] XUL Standardization: Lessons from the RSS Civil War |
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Hi,
I just stumbled over Tim Bray's blog entry titled "I
Like Pie".
Tim comments on Sam Ruby's new initiative code-named
"Pie" to create a new RSS (Really Simple Syndication)
format to end the civil war between the RSS 0.9*
crowd, the RSS 1.0 crowd, and the RSS 2.0 crowd.
I guess I'm not breaking any news here so let's move
on and see how this fits the XUL campaign.
I think the RSS standardization is a great
real-world case-study and warm-up excercise for the
coming XUL standardization and Tim Bray's blog post
offers tons of insight from a veteran responsible for
the W3C XML spec among others.
Here are some quotes:
<tim>
What To Call It? Call me an idealistic dreamer, but
I�d like to go on calling it RSS; a nice simple
easy-to-remember TLA [three letter acronym] that even
has a minor little beach-head in the popular
consciousness.
</tim>
The wise man says stick with XUL.
<tim>
Take It To a Standards Org? I think that in the long
run it would be good if RSS or Pie or whatever
weren�t �An XXX Specification�, where XXX is any
of Userland or IBM or Microsoft or Textuality or,
well, you get the idea. I think that the reasons for
this are so obvious that I�m not going to waste your
time walking through them.
</tim>
The wise man says a Mozilla specification is a joke.
<tim>
Don�t go to W3C, which is just too popular,
these days, for its own good. If we could convince W3C
to launch a Working Group (which would take months)
there would instantly be 75 or more companies who
wanted to join it, because RSS is Hot Stuff. It�s
not entirely impossible they could do a good job, but
it is entirely possible they could really screw it up.
</tim>
The wise man says the W3C is not the place for hot
stuff such as XUL.
<tim>
Four Points It�s easy enough to summarize. What I
care about is that we build something that�s:
* 100% vendor neutral,
* implemented by everybody,
* freely extensible by anybody, and
* cleanly and thoroughly specified.
</tim>
Full story @
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/06/23/SamsPie
Any comments?
- Gerald
PS: For more info about XUL (XML UI Language) check
out the XUL Alliance Site @ http://xul.sourceforge.net
PPS: If you think this post is off-topic for the
xml-dev crowd please join the xul-talk mailinglist @
http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xul-talk
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