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   RE: [xml-dev] Inside Redhell: Microsoft XAML Blogger Round-Up

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I think they decided to take the next technical step forward, 
reviewed the existing designs, found them lacking and took 
advantage of deep programming budgets to take the next step.
There is a lot more in Longhorn than XAML and this didn't 
emerge overnight.  

The right thing to do is to get to work on a standard 
for rich clients.  The usual thing to do is for all sides 
to have a Bitter Butter Battle and accuse each other of evil. 
The market will prevail as it always does and that means 
we will get bare interoperation and nothing more.  I had 
hoped we had matured, but I see that isn't happening.

The day is young in the rich client world.  Let's 
see how it goes.  At least we have XML FWIW.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Jelliffe [mailto:ricko@allette.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 12:15 PM
To: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] Inside Redhell: Microsoft XAML Blogger Round-Up

Michael Champion wrote:

> Uh, no, the browser wars are over.  Microsoft won.  This is the 
> Occupation Force specifying that the roads and bridges must be rebuilt 
> in a manner that accommodates their heavy equipment. <duck> 

They won the browser wars, but it seems they are now losing the browser 
peace :-)

Interesting to see Tim Bray's weblog figures: it seems that number the 
browsers that report
themselves to be non-IE hovers around 50% and sometimes more. This 
suggests that, for
his readership at least "Microsoft won" is ancient history. Everytime 
there is a big Outlook
virus more organizations and people switch to Mozilla etczilla, getting 
an alternative
browser on the way. Me, for example.

I wonder if MS also suspects this: their reluctance to enhance Explorer 
further, the lack
of support for recent W3C client standards, and the development of XAML 
shows they
want control of the API. Lots of fun.


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