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   RE: [xml-dev] wacky XML

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Jeff Rafter wrote:
>To take it one step further, I used XSLT to do my Latin homework for a while
>a few years ago-- in the intro classes pattern matching handles almost
>anything-- it is the later sections that require real thinking : )

This is a good point.  I used to use XML and XSLT to format my school documents
as APA or MLA format, as I often had different classes wanting the information
in different formats, and always seemed to get mixed up as to which was which.

This way, all I had to do was compose an XML document with all my sections and
references, and if the class called for MLA format, I'd run my MLA XSLT formatter.


Jeff Rafter also wrote:
>Maybe practical maybe not, but I use XML to translate programming
>languages...

Cool deal.  I've often thought that this technology could really lend itself
to translating programming languages.  I've also considered the possibility
that you could use it to make a pretty wild IDE that would allow comments
and formatting to be applied to code more easily than they are now.


Chris Strolia-Davis
Database Specialist
Contractor - CDO Technologies Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Rafter [mailto:lists@jeffrafter.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:38 PM
To: Simon St.Laurent; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
Subject: Re: [xml-dev] wacky XML


Maybe practical maybe not, but I use XML to translate programming
languages... I have written SAX producers for IDL, Java and Delphi-- once in
XML, I have a set of stylesheets that can transform from language to
language. Obviously far from complete but it has written 100,000s lines of
code for me already. For instance I ran it on the SVG IDL files (and
associated) and produced a complete set of native interfaces in C# and
Delphi. I started on a direct port of SAXON to C# using my Java translator
but got busy and had to stop-- it did do all of the headers flawlessly
though.

To take it one step further, I used XSLT to do my Latin homework for a while
a few years ago-- in the intro classes pattern matching handles almost
anything-- it is the later sections that require real thinking : )

I also worked with some New Media Poets that were using SVG to create
dictionary driven and even animated "New Media Poetry".

res inutilis vitorum implemus

Salve,
Jeff Rafter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>
To: <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: [xml-dev] wacky XML


> I'm trying to convince a few people that XML is still interesting stuff,
> and that people are doing amazing things with it.  I think that kind of
> conversation might also add some relevant but entertaining conversation
> to the list.
>
> By "interesting", I don't mean "our multi-layer transactional process
> enables businesses to fully utilize the power of web services for
> customer needs fulfillment" - I mean something off the beaten path, not
> the usual business-to-business, web content management, or publishing
> scenarios.  (I already own $GML: The Billion-Dollar Secret.)
>
> Possibilities might include:
>
> * "I create model train operating sessions with XML."
> * "I manage satellite imaging using XML."
> * "I operate a sewage treatment plant with XML."
> * "I control my stereo with XML."
> * "I manage my contacts with RDF."
> * "I use XML as part of my plot to conquer the world."
> * "I keep track of my payroll in a database and use XSL-FO to print the
> checks and file the statements."
> * "I keep track of tombstone rubbings in SGML." (This one is real.)
> * "I map forests in 1/5 acre chunks using XML and SVG." (Mine.)
>
> I'd much rather hear things which are shareable, or at least
> replicatable.  I'm not looking for HyTime implementations where "I'd
> tell you but I'd have to kill you" is the rule.
>
> Outrageous is fun, practical is fine, but off the beaten path would be
> appreciated.
>
> -- 
> Simon St.Laurent
> Ring around the content, a pocket full of brackets
> Errors, errors, all fall down!
> http://simonstl.com -- http://monasticxml.org
>
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