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   RE: [xml-dev] more silly questions

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It is of concern to those who field XML technologies 
in environments that are unsafe for some classes of 
applications. The issue is being raised on other 
mail lists.   Part of the narrowing of the question 
will be to first determine what technologies or 
technologists can contribute to the solution.  One 
pertinent point brought up on another list, not on 
XML-Dev, is to learn to design XML application 
languages so that they are transport-agnostic. 
It would be a best practices topic here once one 
understands the deficiency of the transport and 
the design practices.

If it is not of concern to you, you know how to setup 
a spam filter on a topic.  That is a way to mitigate 
an environment not designed to control message traffic 
in accordance with your tastes if not policed by the 
unmoderated list to which you have subscribed, yes?  

If your spam filter auto-replies as some do, 
one has to filter that too.


From: Amelia A Lewis [mailto:amyzing@talsever.com]

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 12:23:48 -0600 
"Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com> wrote:

[more on how to fix SMTP, following up Michael Kay in response to me]

In my other life (or lives) this matters to me, but ...

is there anything that XML, as a technology, can contribute toward the
solution?  I don't think so, but I'm willing to be convinced.

if not, is there any particular reason for discussing the redesign of
TCP/IP and SMTP here?  There are places where discussion of such a
redesign may well be highly productive (IETF mailing lists, mostly,
although some may prefer more proprietary environments).  Here it seems
simply to contribute to email fatigue (xml-dev always goes through my spam

is there something in the discussion that ought to be applied to the
design of XML technologies?  This seems more likely (at least more
*possible*), but again, I haven't seen those suggestions either.

Not to be rude, but complaining about the problems of email and the
principles of the redesign of TCP/IP and SMTP to a few hundred people on a
mailing list devoted to an entirely other topic seems easy to label
(perhaps unjustly) part-of-the-problem.

Like *this* email, for instance.  *sigh*

Amelia A. Lewis                    amyzing {at} talsever.com
I don't want what's best for you--
    where will I be when you've found it?
        I pray a lot about these bad feelings inside
            but I can't pray my way through or around it.
                -- Emily Saliers


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