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- Subject: Composability: Do the Emperor's Clothes Fit? (RE: [xml-dev] Costs, benefits, and emperors with wardrobe malfunctions - was Re: [xml-dev] WS-Emperor naked?)
- From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>
- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:56:00 -0500
I like the emphasis on composability in that overview.
http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200203/msg01005.html
As Tim Bray noted, many started this odyssey as document
geeks. Some do other forms of composition, but composability
is a tenet that one should contrast to interoperability and
ask if the common understanding of interoperability is
correct. Composability assumes that portable
data requires interoperability first because each part of
the message assumes a reliable, working service which
shares definitions if not sharing implementations. One
can compose nonsense quite easily with portable data
if one composes statements the system can't reliably
process. But the web is NOT one system. It is lots
of little systems all in different lifecycles and
the chaotic behaviors arise because of that.
Is the Emperor naked? No. Parts of the WS polyglot
work reliably. Is he stylishly attired? Do we care?
Probably not. Is he overdressed? Possibly. So I
ask about the WS-I and the basic profile. One does
expect the major companies to get beyond 'basics'
ahead of the standards. The king and the peasant dress
differently and the tailors charge accordingly
and schedules a production run accordingly.
The emperor was naked because the tailors were dishonest,
the emperor was gullible, and his subjects were
politically correct. That isn't a problem here. :-)
In short, the basics work. WS are following the
pattern of car manufacturing based on common parts.
We may not get reliable power brakes as composable parts
until one or two manufacturers assemble and sell
them for awhile. So even if slow, the web services
industry appears to be on track. Again, in this
period, we should emphasize specification with an
eye to standardization.
A question of interest is when does composition
create an insecure and unreliable service? Well,
one should choose their tailors wisely and if they
promise magic, be dubious. Once again, the web
hypeMonster bites.
len
From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:dareo@microsoft.com]
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