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You asked.  In deference to Tim, this really 
is raving.  Busy people hit delete now.

I don't accept both.  I acknowledge both.
I'm hoping for better because I'm expecting 
worse.  They say worse is better. We choose 
our karma by dharma or kama, but we choose.
To only be ronin, one fights for one's 
lord.  That I have done.  To be samurai, 
one fights for the way and the land.  
A 'just business' attitude  
takes the samurai and makes him 
yaguska.  When the lord no 
longer enables the way, it is 
corrupted, thus corrupting the heart, 
thus corrupting the land.

When I first saw the draft for ISO 8879, it 
struck me that this was better than  
OOP because OOP would never scale and it 
would never be fully interoperable but it 
sure was technically attractive.  SGML was 
rough reading and hard to understand.  That 
was the technical call. But when I  
met Goldfarb and the people that were 
working with him on markup, I was impressed 
with their commitment to protecting the 
information from the host system, and 
making sure it could outlive it.   
Although I could not be their technical 
equal, I could fight for them.  That was 
the call of my heart. 

To this day, I believe strongly that the 
world owes those people an incalculable 
debt, not just for markup, but for setting 
an immaculate example of passionate 
commitment to doing the right thing the 
right way.

Cut the corners.  Get the cool stuff out 
there.  Then hold on to your pocketbook 
when a group decides it's time to play 
"Revenge of the Crimson Assurance" with 
your product because the IP wasn't worth 
protecting.  I don't know how to fix 
inequities in the market, but I have 
to find a way to protect customers 
from them.  Any of us in caveat vendor 
markets do.  It's called, indemnity.

Somewhere between going fast 
enough to make the biggest splash and 
moving deliberately to secure 
a future is the right way where better 
is good enough and worse is seen for 
what it is.  All I can say for sure is 
that anyone designing software products 
today without understanding that the 
product must interoperate both within 
its local product suite and across 
its market competitor's products is 
not paying attention.   What I want 
is a way to know if it does or 
not without having to find the guys 
who built it and ask. 


From: Frank [mailto:frank@therichards.org]


I just have to ask. Why do you find it ok for business folks to do any
slimy thing short of armed robbery in search of making money, but
morally reprehensible for techies to cut procedural corners in preparing
specs for doing cool stuff.

Lawsuits and bespoke statutes are 'just business', but you have a real
attitude of outrage about 'rough consensus and running code'. I can see
getting upset about both, or accepting both as 'mammal stuff' but just
plain don't get the different outlooks on the two.

Most sincerely,



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