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  • To: "Mark Baker" <distobj@acm.org>,"Michael Champion" <mc@xegesis.org>
  • Subject: RE: [xml-dev] The triples datamodel -- was Re: [xml-dev] Semantic Web permathread, iteration n+1
  • From: "Joshua Allen" <joshuaa@microsoft.com>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:58:04 -0700
  • Cc: "XML Developers List" <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
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  • Thread-topic: [xml-dev] The triples datamodel -- was Re: [xml-dev] Semantic Web permathread, iteration n+1

To be clear, I'm talking about modeling data as (s, p, o).  You could
argue that this data model has been around for a long time (as it's
essentially prolog), or that this is easily done using relational or XML
data models.  I wouldn't argue.  But the fact that you are conceptually
dealing with (s, p, o) is absolutely critical to systems like WinFS and

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 6:16 PM
> To: Michael Champion
> Cc: XML Developers List
> Subject: Re: [xml-dev] The triples datamodel -- was Re: 
> [xml-dev] Semantic Web permathread, iteration n+1
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 05:15:00PM -0400, Michael Champion wrote:
> > I don't know about that "inevitable" part -- the triples 
> model is more 
> > or less the binary relational data model, which has been 
> around a long 
> > time and has not exactly set the world on fire.
> I agree, it's not the triples themselves which are key.  I 
> believe that what's key is a data model which presents 
> information in discrete "packets" so that I can, for example, 
> add a new packet without impacting the ability of deployed 
> software to extract other packets.  Triples do that, but so 
> can other models.  So, in response to Elliotte, this is why 
> vanilla XML (+Namespaces+URIs) isn't sufficient.
> FWIW, I've got a simple example that I like to use to 
> describe the benefits of RDF/XML over XML;
> http://www.markbaker.ca/2002/09/Blog/2003/10/09/#2003-10-rdf-and-xml
> Mark.
> -- 
> Mark Baker.   Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.        http://www.markbaker.ca
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