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   RE: [xml-dev] What is XAML? A technique? A language? Both? XML# or XML++

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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:

> And we already have that as WinForms, XUL, etc.
> When we use WinForms, we get a richer client with a lot 
> more control support.  If we use webForms, we get better 
> or more concise properties.  Any MS developer using VisualStudio.Net 
> has to make a decision about that going into a project.  
> WebForms are compatible with HTML and sit in their own 
> namespace (asp:listbox, for example).  Or one develops 
> entirely in HTML.   This works well although the 
> new developer still has to sort out the runat dilemmas 
> (eg, how useful is showModalDialog in a mixed environment? 
> answer:  not very).
> Under XAML, one can use the Avalon objects which are rich, 
> or develop their own thus having a straightforward way to 
> extend the framework with domain objects that someone else 
> can then use to author.  In environments such as the one 
> we sell to with lots of customization and local extensibility, 
> XAML will be close to ideal.  Today, we play a lot of tricks 
> with metadata tables and XSLT.  XAML will be much more 
> straightforward.  One gets the advantages of the custom 
> controls PLUS an XML-analog to other objects.   This is 
> what we were designing for the MID in 1993/94.  It is a 
> natural evolution.
> I see it as the emergence of more sophisticated clients.  HTML 
> only goes so far, then one is inserting Active-X objects.  
> XAML makes sense to me.  A competitor to HTML is overdue.
> len
> (clipped the CC to save the inboxes)
> From: Didier PH Martin [mailto:martind@netfolder.com]
> I have to say that Gerald is right; it's a direct competitor to HTML and to
> XUL. However the main target is not to create document per se but rich
> client applications with all the characteristics of web applications. The
> biggest impact will be on those who promoted the fat server/light client or
> in other word, the reincarnation of the mainframe paradigm.
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