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   Re: [xml-dev] XML-aware programming language?

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So what do you do when you have to process XML ?


On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:57 PM, Dare Obasanjo wrote:

> Exactly, that's why as a programmer I'd rather stick with the language 
> I'm doing most of the application development with anyway (i.e. C#, 
> Javascript, etc) as opposed to dealing with the [familiar] complexity 
> of that language plus all the idiosyncracies of XQuery & XML Schema as 
> well.
> -- 
> There is nothing more satisfying that having someone take a shot at 
> you, and miss.
> ________________________________
> From: Daniela Florescu [mailto:dflorescu@mac.com]
> Sent: Wed 12/1/2004 11:01 PM
> To: Michael Champion
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: Re: [xml-dev] XML-aware programming language?
> As a programmer, I do not believe  in that.
> XML Schema and XQuery are THAT big, and my brain is only THAT small.
> I cannot mentally handle BOTH C# and XML data models in the same
> time; two different kinds of strings, gazzilions of different kinds of
> numerics,
> all similar but DIFFERENT. My brain isn't big enough for that (and I
> don't see
> why it should be...)
> But you are right: there are many people that want to see XML natively
> supported in programming languages. It's the most natural thing, for me
> at
> least.
>> Anyway, I certainly agree that this is not at all a silly topic.
> Here are the main reasons why I believe that a new programming language
> that natively
> manipulates XML and it specially designed for Web Services will
> eventually
> emerge:
> 1) building Web Services today is a big pain. Unless we find a easier
> way to build them,
> they'll never catch on in large scale.
> 2) XML itself didn't catch on large scale yet either (see Jonathan's
> question about why young
> guys don't get excited by XML). My explanation to that is: because we
> cannot DO anything
> with it. Granted, we can query and transform using XSLT or XQuery, but
> you have to admit
> that you need a weird sense of humor to have fun querying and
> transforming. Programmers
> have fun programming. Or today, we cannot program with XML. Hence, no
> fun for most
> programmers with XML....only pain.
> The day when programmers will start having fun programming with XML,
> XML will really
> emerge.
>>  It
>> would be interesting to hear from the other side ...
> Well, no answer yet..... :-)
> Best regards,
> Dana
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