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I have to concur with James and Len.

This is a particularly frustrating time because funding sources are 
stretched very thin, and even DHS project development that is 
uncontestably vital is suffering, but the one area where work is 
advancing, although it seems painfully slow to those who are not down 
in the trenches paying close attention to the details, is in the 
standards work necessary for Emergency Management. We could benefit 
mightily from an infusion of funded professionals and academics.


At 9:29 AM -0500 8/19/05, James Landrum wrote:
>I have to say I am in full agreement with Len on the need to pay 
>professionals for participation in development projects. 
>Importantly, there seems to be a misconception among list posters 
>that academics have no vested interest in developing products; that 
>is far from the case in my experience.
>As both a professional and an academic, with, a considerable vested 
>interest in the development of XML applications, among other 
>technologies, for digital heritage archives, libraries, and related 
>virtual reality simulations of sites, monuments and objects, it is 
>very frustrating to be in situations where funding shortfalls impede 
>both real and potential progress in the development of technology 
>applications- applications that once developed, have potential for 
>use far beyond the digital heritage domain.
>It is fair to say that academics are more directly involved in 
>scholarly research as that is their primary agenda, and while the 
>majority of academics are often less directly involved in technology 
>transfer and industry related product development.  However, this is 
>not to say that significant advances of relevance to industry have 
>not come from academia, that have direct and important impact upon 
>industry - far from it, and I don't sense that I need to itemize 
>these things here.
>It is important to note that many "products" of such research, 
>particularly in computer science and information technology, as well 
>as computer and electrical engineering fields, have direct benefit 
>to industry and enterprise, and it is equally important to note that 
>many of the successes are due to financial support of academic 
>research by both private enterprise and public sector funding at 
>Federal/State/local levels as well as support from non-profit 
>foundations and organizations.
>In short, more attention, especially attention in the form of 
>industry support, for academic research is essential to insure that 
>technology continues to advance.
>Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
>>I said pay professsionals, Dare.  Some might be professional 
>>standards people such as are provided out of ISO.  Our results with 
>>these people have been excellent.  Some are professionals in the 
>>domain and might even include some 'softies if Bad Bill decides to 
>>provide.  Certainly he pays people to participate. Michael 
>>Champion, for example, Jean Paoli was another.
>>Attitude matters more than pay but again, I think it realistic to 
>>expect decent wages for hard work. 
>>From: Dare Obasanjo [mailto:dareo@microsoft.com]
>>Professional standards people? The XSD working group was full of them
>>and I personally think this is one of the reasons it was a disaster. A
>>bunch of academics with no stake in the success of the technology since
>>they weren't building products OR did not accurately represent their
>>constituency on thew orking group.
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