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  • To: "Costello, Roger L." <costello@mitre.org>, "XML Developers List" <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
  • Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Utilizing the Web's Whole Information Space, i.e., Mechanisms/Patterns of Information Usage and Formation?
  • From: "Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)" <natyoung@cisco.com>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:53:06 -0800
  • Thread-index: AcYdRb7UwshtrhLjTT+wq7owzRMGgwAfGTQqAAlWUWA=
  • Thread-topic: [xml-dev] Utilizing the Web's Whole Information Space, i.e., Mechanisms/Patterns of Information Usage and Formation?

I could be totally missing what you are trying to talk about but...

I hear you possibly talking about publishing->storage->delivery and the
variations on those.

Publishing modes could be:

 - push documents onto web server
 - edit web content using a web interface

Storage modes could be:

 - store as documents
 - store as database records

Retrieval modes could be:

 - retrive as document
 - retrieve as service

Or am I totally off track with what you are asking?

In the list you started to make, you listed RSS, wiki, and web
services/content.  I see RSS and wiki as both being under the umbrella
of web services/content.

If you want to talk about the web as being information that's available
in a variety of modes, a list might look like:

 - web page content
 - RSS feeds
 - annotations/shared bookmarks
 - tag collections like http://www.technorati.com/search/semantic+web
 - derived meta information (link graph analyses like google, content
re-interpretations like flikr spell: http://metaatem.net/words/xml+rocks
 - trust/association webs (I don't think this exists yet)

Actually you could build a much bigger list if you don't limit yourself
to what currently exists.  Ironically that seems to characterize the
semantic web to date.



Nathan Young
CDC Site Dev->Interface Development Team
A: ncy1717
E: natyoung@cisco.com  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Costello, Roger L. [mailto:costello@mitre.org] 
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:05 AM
> To: XML Developers List
> Subject: [xml-dev] Utilizing the Web's Whole Information 
> Space, i.e., Mechanisms/Patterns of Information Usage and Formation?
> Hi Folks,
> My objective is:
>     - to understand the Web as a "space" of information
>     - to learn to take effective advantage of the whole space 
> of information
> In other words, to effectively utilize the Web I must be able 
> to exploit all the information, not just information from, 
> say, web services.
> I am seeking your thoughts on this topic.
> The above is pretty abstract, so let me make it more concrete.
> Let me start by giving my definition of the Web, and then a 
> concrete statement of my objective:
> Definition: The Web is a network of information, that can be 
> traversed and assembled in user-specified ways.
> Problem: If the Web is all about creating and exploiting 
> networks of information, then it makes sense to understand 
> the Web's fundamental mechanisms/patterns of information 
> formation and usage.  So, the problem is to identify the 
> mechanisms/patterns of information usage and formation on the 
> Web today.
> Here is the list that I have compiled thus far:
> 1. RSS/Atom: information is syndicated.  That is, consumers 
> pull the information.  The information contains links which 
> enable the consumer to traverse to information that is of 
> interest or value.
> 2. Wiki: information is collaboratively grown.  The 
> information is massively connected to other information, thus 
> reflecting the many ways that knowledge intertwines.
> 3. Traditional Web Sites and Web Services: information is 
> exposed (made available).  If a consumer wants it, he must go 
> and get it.  Information is exchanged.  The information is 
> linked to other related information.
> These mechanisms/patterns all contribute to the Web's 
> information space.  Effective use of the Web requires me to 
> understand and utilize the whole information space, i.e., all 
> of these mechanisms/patterns.
> What other fundamental mechanisms/patterns are there on the 
> Web today, that contribute to the whole information space?  /Roger


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