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  • To: "ROR" <dev@rorweb.com>, "Bullard, Claude L \(Len\)" <len.bullard@intergraph.com>
  • Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Invitation to metadata dictionary wiki - meaningfuel.org
  • From: "Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)" <natyoung@cisco.com>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:06:58 -0800
  • Cc: <xml-dev@lists.xml.org>
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  • Thread-topic: [xml-dev] Invitation to metadata dictionary wiki - meaningfuel.org

The genius of PageRank is not in the links, it's in the filtering
algorithm.

A famous early example of wisdom of the crowds was done on a "guess the
number of jellybeans" contest.  The average guess was much better than
any of the individual guesses.  The simplicity of this masks the fact
that "average" is an algorithm that encodes the rule "people will err on
the high side as much as they will err on the low side".  The algorithm
only works as well as the rule applies.

Maybe a twiki will work well for meta data, it's hard to tell.  If you
want to piggyback on the success of wikipedia though, you might take
additional pages from their book and write some content guidelines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ

Particularly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_is_an_article

parts of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categorisation_FAQ

and some form of equivalent to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style

----------->Nathan


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Nathan Young
CDC Site Dev->Interface Development Team
A: ncy1717
E: natyoung@cisco.com  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ROR [mailto:dev@rorweb.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: Bullard, Claude L (Len)
> Cc: xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: RE: [xml-dev] Invitation to metadata dictionary wiki 
> - meaningfuel.org
> 
> Hi Len, 
> 
> There are some very successful technologies out there that are 
> essentially powered by the people. PageRank is a great 
> example of that.
> 
> -Dom
> 
> 
> > Which makes it suitable for picking the contestants on 
> > American Idol but probably not for picking tools to 
> > use in surgery.
> > 
> > The problem of the 'wisdom of crowds' is knowing 
> > 'crowds of what?' in advance of applying the wisdom.
> > 
> > It's not simply a matter of merging but also of 
> > knowing what levels of abstract to concrete terms 
> > a merged term belongs to.
> > 
> > object -> vehicle -> car
> > 
> > merge: transportation
> > 
> > The problem of Darwinian systems is that some 
> > competitors agree not to compete and also to 
> > eliminate the third party, aka, market fixing.
> > That is the chimp way.  You are building a 
> > chimp ontology.
> > 
> > That's fine.  Chimps need them.
> > 
> > len
> > 
> > 
> > From: ROR [mailto:dev@rorweb.com]
> > 
> > Hi Jonathan,
> > 
> > Good questions! I think the best way to look at the 
> meaningfuel wiki 
> > is as some sort of "natural selection metadata". Some terms will 
> > vanish after two weeks, other more adequate terms, will live 
> forever. 
> > Similar terms (i.e. from different ontologies) will compete, and 
> here 
> > too, only the most adequate ones will survive.
> > 
> > >From time to time we plan to produce a release of the dictionary, 
> > which  will only contain those terms that have reached sufficient 
> > stability and maturity.
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 
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