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Re: [xml-dev] The Goals of XML at 25, and the one thing that XML now needs

Dan, Peter, Arjun, Mukul, Gavin ... gosh, so many voices from my past!  

Cheers all!
Rick

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:07 PM Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org> wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 at 07:44, Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au> wrote:
Let the dead bury the dead! 

Another adage is that anything that does not grow dies. I think XML has reached that stage.  It continues to be fine for what it does, but it is not now a technology that opens new doors or promotes new efficiencies. Which is just not a necessary or desirable fate. 

Thanks for the interesting thread! One thing in life is constant - RDF continues to be compared unfavourably to the fashionable file format of the day (XML, and now JSON, occasionally YAML).

I think the RDF world could also benefit from a similar "where are we now, and how might we become more useful" exercise to this one, but we can also indulge in a little "told you so"-ism in that XML data that was in the RDF/XML pattern, is via the underlying data model, totally compatible with JSON data that's in the RDF/JSON-LD pattern. You can parse out the same graph, put it in a common RDF/SPARQL data store, etc etc. So instead of hearing "hey why pay the RDF tax with RDF/XML, you could use native XML and its APIs and standards", we now hear "hey, why pay the RDF tax with JSON-LD, you could use native JSON tooling...". There is certainly a cost and some friction to having this kind of two-tier view of data representation, but there's something to is as well in terms of having an abstraction of what the document/file was communicating, for cases where the payload is simple-ish factual data rather than a tagged document.

Dan
 


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