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Re: [xml-dev] Are namespaces actually crypto-entities orcrypto-links? (was re: [xml-dev] Napkin grammar)
- From: "Liam R. E. Quin" <liam@fromoldbooks.org>
- To: Marcus Reichardt <u123724@gmail.com>, Rick Jelliffe <rjelliffe@allette.com.au>
- Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 05:16:26 -0400
On Fri, 2021-07-23 at 13:21 +0200, Marcus Reichardt wrote:
>
> Actually there *are* collisions since both HTML and SVG have <a> and
> <title>, but these happen to agree in their definition; at least in
> HTML5 which embeds SVG without namespaces
No - svg elements are automatically placed in the appropriate
namespace, as are mathml elements. This is a bit like the automatic
(or unobtrusive) namespace proposals i made, in which this behaviour
would be defined by a simple language (itself not using namespaces).
That proposal was cleverly derailed by others proposing that the
namespace definition needed to use namespaces, guaranteeing that the
proposal would fail.
>
> <?DSDL-9 bind-ns-to-prefix ns-iri="..." prefix="..."?>
>
> to *rename* elements into a canonical form 'canonical-ns:name'
The architectural forms approach of mapping terms in an SGML
vocabulary to some other vocabulary, used in both Author/Editor and
SoftQuad Panorama, was much better than the Xlink-style nonsense of
foisting fixed namespaced names on people - but that argument got
nowhere and went round in circles trying to get nowhere, unfortunately.
The actual PI approach, as Henry points out, had a number of technical
problems with it that couldn't really be resolved in the short time we
were given to come up with XML namespaces.
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