Re: [xml-dev] CSS selectors are syntactic sugar for XPath expressions

[Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>]

I don't know CSS well enough to answer your question, but your headline about "syntactic sugar" is way off the mark. The languages have quite different semantics, and overlapping expressive power; the term "syntactic sugar" implies that a trivial conversion is possible from one to the other, and that's certainly not the case.

Michael Kay
Saxonica

> On 21 Mar 2022, at 17:58, Roger L Costello <costello@mitre.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Recall that CSS rules consist of two parts: a selector and styling statements. For example, this rule says the content of the <h1> element is to be italicized:
> 
> h1 { font-style: italic; }
> 
> Multiple elements can be identified in a rule by separating their names with commas, e.g.,
> 
> h1, h2, h3  { font-style: italic; }
> 
> That is equivalent to these three rules:
> 
> h1 { font-style: italic; }
> h2 { font-style: italic; }
> h3 { font-style: italic; }
> 
> Both forms say this: Italicize the content of h1 headers; italicize the content of h2 headers; and italicize the content of h3 headers. The styling actions on h1, h2, and h3 are independent of one another. 
> 
> The CSS selectors are syntactic sugar (convenient shorthand notations) for equivalent XPath expressions. For example:
> 
> div  		//div
> h1 em  		//h1//em 
> .title   		//*[@class='title']
> #mars    	//*[@id='mars']
> div#mars 	//div[@id='mars']
> 
> CSS selectors are really nice. They are simple and powerful. 
> 
> I would like to use the "CSS approach" for a language that I am creating. But there is a problem. Suppose the language that I am creating is to operate on this XML:
> 
> <person>
>  <name>John Doe</name>
>  <telephone>555-123-4567</telephone>
>  <latitude>42.366978</latitude>
>  <longitude>-71.022362</longitude>
> </person>
> 
> The latitude/longitude pair corresponds to the location of Logan airport in Boston. So the XML document shows John Doe at Logan airport. I would like a rule that fuzzes the latitude and longitude elements so that you only know John Doe's location to within a 10 kilometer radius of Boston. One might imagine a rule like this:
> 
> latitude, longitude { fuzz_location(...); }
> 
> However, the semantics of CSS says that that rule is equivalent to two independent rules:
> 
> latitude		{ fuzz_location(...); }
> longitude 	{ fuzz_location(...); } 
> 
> That's not what I want. The latitude and longitude values are intertwined; their values must be operated on together, not independently. 
> 
> I want to avoid using the XPath syntax for selectors, as XPath is too complex for my users. 
> 
> I want to use the simple CSS syntax, but somehow I need to extend its semantics so that a rule can select a set of elements that are operated on together. Have you done this type of thing -- extended the CSS semantics so that a selected set of elements are operated on together?
> 
> /Roger
> 
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