Re: [xml-dev] RE: The limits of XML mean the limits of my data world

[Peter Flynn <peter@silmaril.ie>]

On 29/05/2022 20:07, Roger L Costello wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>
> > overlap can be expressed but not represented
> I am not clear what you mean by "overlap". 
The classic example of overlap is when a string you want to mark up (eg 
a whole sentence, or a quotation in direct speech) occurs split over two 
or more elements of a containing structure (eg verses of a religious 
text, or lines of a poem or play), or divided by some other text (eg 
"quoth he" in the example here):

   A’ was a merry man—took up the child:
   “Yea,” quoth he, “dost thou fall upon thy face?
   Thou wilt fall backward when thou hast more wit;
   Wilt thou not, Jule?” and, by my holidame,
   The pretty wretch left crying and said “Ay.”

   [Shakespeare, Romeo & Juliet, 1.3:44]

If you mark the lines in the conventional manner:

   <l>A’ was a merry man—took up the child:</l>
   <l>“Yea,” quoth he, “dost thou fall upon thy face?</l>
   <l>Thou wilt fall backward when thou hast more wit;</l>
   <l>Wilt thou not, Jule?” and, by my holidame,</l>
   <l>The pretty wretch left crying and said “Ay.”</l>

how can you also mark the quoted passages that split over lines?

Jeni Tenison said “Overlap is arguably the main remaining problem area 
for markup technologists.” [blog, 2008-12-06], and there have been 
dozens if not hundreds of papers, essays, and blogs about the different 
ways people have found to [partially] solve the problem.

Peter