I see. I would be concerned that this
may be a case of "throwing out the baby with the bath water".
I say that not because the WSRP comment list has been heavily used (I'm
sure I received more private emails asking questions as the spec editor
than the comment list did), but rather because I see utility to having
two distinct discussion forums:
1. Expert oriented - only TC members
may post to this list and its primary purpose is to hold discussions on
the technical issues before the TC.
2. Public oriented - Any subscriber
may post to this list and its primary purpose is for comments and questions
from the public on the work of the TC. Responses that provide answers/ask
for clarification are acceptable, but technical discussions on the merits
of different items is not.
Clearly the main TC and SC email lists
provide the function of #1 and it sounds like many of us thought the comment
list provided the function of #2. Provided there is general agreement that
this is important functionality, I would rather see a mechanism put into
place that would allow OASIS TC Admin to moderate a comment list that is
being abused rather than throwing out the forum from the overall process.
Rich Thompson
OASIS WSRP TC Chair
"Karl F. Best" <>
09/05/2003 08:37 AM
Please respond to karl.best
To:
Rich Thompson/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
cc:
Subject:
Re: [chairs] public comment web form
Yes, there have been TCs who have conducted technical
discussions on the
comment lists. Under the guise of getting technical input from a broad
number of sources, they have actually reduced the incentive for people
to join the TC.
-Karl
Rich Thompson wrote:
>
> So if I understand the design:
> - There will no longer be a -comment email list one can subscribe
to
> - There will be a web form for submitting comments
> - These comments will be emailed to the chair and appended to
a
> publically accessible archive
>
> This maintains accountability, but is a drop on the openness front.
> Still accountable because anyone can go search the -comment archive,
but
> less open as many fewer will do that than who subscribe to the -comment
> lists today.
>
> I guess I would back up and question why it is a problem for the public
> email list to be a discussion forum. Have there been instances where
> this was distractive to the work of the TC or perhaps used
> inappropriately by some members of the public? Other reasons driving
the
> change?
>
> Rich Thompson
> OASIS WSRP TC Chair
>
>
> "Karl F. Best" <>
>
> 09/04/2003 02:01 PM
> Please respond to karl.best
>
>
> To: Rich Thompson/Watson/IBM@IBMUS
> cc:
> Subject: Re:
[chairs] public comment web form
>
>
>
>
> The submitted comment will be forwarded to the chair as well as put
in
> the -comment archive. So there will still be the same accountability
for
> the comments received.
>
> -Karl
>
>
> Rich Thompson wrote:
> >
> > One could always argue that the chair can forward the comment
with a
> > reply to the TC mail list rather than a private response.
I was more
> > concerned that this takes what was an open communication
(posting to an
> > email list) and turns it into a private communication (email
to the
> > chair). This seems to go against the open nature of OASIS.
> >
> > Rich Thompson
> > OASIS WSRP TC Chair
> >
> >
> > "Drummond Reed" <>
> >
> > 09/04/2003 01:27 PM
> >
> >
> > To: <>,
<>
> > cc: "Gabe
Wachob (E-mail)" <>
> > Subject:
RE: [chairs] public comment web form
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Karl,
> >
> > I agree with Lauren. At least a limited form of public
discussion seems
> > like a valuable portion of what OASIS provides. What was
the board's
> > thinking on this?
> >
> > =Drummond
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lauren Wood [mailto:]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:02 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: [chairs] public comment web form
> >
> > Karl wrote:
> >
> > * The TC's public comment list is replaced with a "means
to collect
> > public comments", which will be a web form. (This
is to prevent the
> > comment list from being used as a discussion list.) Comments
> > collected by the web form will go to the chairs. I'm having
the web
> > forms built now and will announce to the comment
lists when this
> > change will take place.
> >
> >
> > Karl,
> >
> > how do we then ask clarifying questions, or make quick
replies (along
> > the lines of "see section 2.1. in the spec - isn't
that clear
> > enough?"
> >
> > I can understand not wanting full discussions, but we often
do need
> > clarifying discussions to know what the comment provider
really
> > meant. And I'd rather not have that take place in private
email.
> >
> > Lauren
> >
> > ---
> > Lauren Wood, Textuality
> > Chair, ER TC
> >
> >
> >
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