RE: [chairs] OASIS Organizational Voting is Somewhat Absurd?

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Patil, Sanjay <>
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2005-09-29T18:02:36+00:00
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RE: [chairs] OASIS Organizational Voting is Somewhat Absurd?
I too see the problem. As other mentioned earlier, I think 
the requirement of a broader OASIS membership voting exists primarily 
to ensure high quality of OASIS standards. However in reality 
most companies would have a policy of  'don't vote if you don't 
care'  which would immediately put the chair(s) of 
the not-so-popular specs in a disadvantageous position and their only 
resort may be to seek favors from unrelated OASIS membership to cast 
their (meaningless) votes. Not a good situation.

 

So I guess there is a problem and we may all want to fix 
it. However any solution we come up with should also meet the 
original goal of ensuring high quality OASIS standards.

 

I like the idea of setting up domains but I would also 
suggest to raise the bar higher in setting up a domain (by requiring certain 
minimum membership, a review and approval of OASIS membership/TAB/Board, etc). 
Basically so that the process does not get easily abused. Another point in the 
process where the quality bar can be raised higher is by requiring TCs to 
produce material related to compliance testing and by requiring certain 
interoperability testing to occur (as opposed to merely a certification of use 
by three member companies).

 

Thanks,

Sanjay Patil

Co-chair, Web Services Reliable Exchange (WS-RX) 
TC.

  

  
  From: Bohren, Jeffrey 
  [mailto:] 
Sent: Thursday, Sep 29, 2005 10:26 
  AM
To: 
Subject: RE: [chairs] 
  OASIS Organizational Voting is Somewhat Absurd?

  

  

  
First, I agree the 
  process is flawed. It is going to get exponentially worse as OASIS grows (# 
  new TCs times the # new organizations).

  
 

  
Let me make a 
  suggestion that is similar to Rob’s. 

  
 

  
1)       
  OASIS would establish 
  a set of domains. 

  
2)       
  Each OASIS member 
  organization would elect to participate in N number of domains. 
  

  
3)       
  Each TC could chose 
  to submit specs to a specific domain or OASIS at large. If a TC submits the 
  spec for “domain approval”, the vote threshold should be higher since it is a 
  more focus group.

  
 

  
If you want a good 
  first cut at the list of domains, go to the OASIS home page and look at the 
  “Committees by Category” box.

  
 

  
Some specs really 
  should be approved by OASIS at large because they are very general. For 
  example if there is a new version of UDDI, I would see that as being an OASIS 
  wide vote. The vast majority of specs, however, should be voted on by a subset 
  of organizations.

  
 

  
 

  
Jeff 
  Bohren

  
BMC

  
 

  
-----Original 
  Message-----
From: Duane 
  Nickull [mailto:] 
Sent: Thursday, September 
  29, 2005 12:53 
  PM
To: Wachob, Gabe; 
  
Subject: RE: [chairs] OASIS 
  Organizational Voting is Somewhat Absurd?

  
 

  

  
“Does 
  anyone else feel this way?”

  
 

  
I agree 
  that it may be suboptimal.  Do you have any concrete plans or suggestions 
  for our perusal?  While voting to approve something you haven’t read is a 
  relatively hollow gesture, it has to be balanced against the other end of the 
  spectrum whereby a group of three members could get together, have a FUDfest 
  and create some meaningless specification and get it approved as an OASIS 
  standard.  This lack of scrutiny by all of us weakens the perception and 
  credibility of OASIS as a credible standards development 
  organization.

  
 

  
I would 
  be interested in hearing concrete proposals and am open to considering a new 
  model if others are keen too.

  
 

  
Duane