Re: [chairs] Comments and IP

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Patrick Durusau <>
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2006-04-14T14:37:18+00:00
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Re: [chairs] Comments and IP
Hal,

Hal Lockhart wrote:

>Hi Patrick, how have you been?
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Been busy with standards stuff!  The  Topic Maps Reference Model is on 
CD ballot (ISO) and ODF is out for ISO ballot as well.

>I believe the issue is that OASIS needs a positive confirmation that the
>party providing feedback actively agrees to the terms of the Feedback
>License (Appendix A of the IPR Policy). Since this commits the party to
>things like patent licensing terms, mere notice is not sufficient. They
>have to sign and return the form.
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Sure, but what I was thinking about was a subscription confirmation 
process, not merely notice.

 From memory but I have been on email lists where you send the "subcribe 
message" and then you get a "confirmation" post from the list that says 
something to the effect: "you or at least your email address has asked 
to subscribe, to make sure it is you, please reply to this message, 
blah, blah."

I was thinking that a response to the confirmation message (assuming we 
included the IP language) would be as binding as any transaction over 
the web.

In other words, not merely notice but *notice + affirmative response* to 
the notice via email. Just like the click-thru you suggest below but 
doing it with email.

The one refinement I would suggest is language that the agreement is 
effective until the person unsubscribes from the list.

How have you been?

Hope you are having a great day!

Patrick

>This is not my area of expertise, but perhaps a click-thru license on
>the web page might be sufficient. However I don't think an automated
>message on a mailing list would ever be sufficient to create a binding
>legal commitment.
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>Hal
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Patrick Durusau [mailto:]
>>Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:33 PM
>>To: 
>>Subject: [chairs] Comments and IP
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>>Greetings!
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>>At a meeting of the ODF Metadata SC the issue came up about getting
>>non-OASIS members to post use cases and other feedback to the TC.
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>>The only mechanism now is the comment form.
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>>One of the participants mentioned that the W3C handles that by sending
>>the IP notice as part of the subscription confirmation.
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>>That seems like an easier way to handle the IP notice and gets members
>>of the public into the discussion loop.
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>>The SC is looking for the easiest way possible, consistent with the
>>required IP notice to get feedback. The reasoning being that is it
>>easier to market a standard or technology that is what people are
>>interested in using than something that we are interested in
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>marketing.
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>>I haven't done email adminstration in years but that seems like it
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>>be fairly easy to implement and would cover all the necessary IP
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>notices.
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>>Hope everyone is having a great day!
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>>Patrick
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>>PS: The next ODF Metadata meeting is Thursday, April 20, 2006 at 11
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>AM.
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>>Please join us!
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>>--
>>Patrick Durusau
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>>Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
>>Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
>>Member, Text Encoding Initiative Board of Directors, 2003-2005
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>>Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!
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Patrick Durusau

Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
Member, Text Encoding Initiative Board of Directors, 2003-2005

Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!