Duane,
We talking at cross purposes here I believe - the discussion was "if
we did something -what might it be?" - information gathering. Not
decision process - Yes / No - to actually do it.
The beauty of Skype POP is zero cost for actual calls placed.
For those of us spending $100's monthly on international calls - this
is a critical factor.
If OASIS has a Skype # in country - its a free call via Skype, or
just a local call rate from a landline phone.
Clearly this is a big deal in encouraging overseas participation in
TC work.
DW
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Subject: RE:
[chairs] TC Teleconference Services questionnaire
From: "Duane
Nickull" <>
Date: Tue, May 23, 2006 12:06
pm
To: "David RR Webber (XML)"
<>,
<>
Cc:
"Barbara Erbes"
<>,
<>,
"Scott McGrath"
<>
Sorry –
but I have to disagree with this in principle. Yes – Skype
is good and the cost is very low but I do not think that OASIS should
bother with the overhead of being a conference call sponsor.
Simply put, the costs will be greater than if we continue organizing it
ourselves and that cost has no other place to be passed on than to us,
the members.
IMO – it
is much more efficient for each TC to arrange their own resources for
meetings. Let OASIS keep focused on major issues like IPR,
working with other SDO’s, providing the web infrastructure
(WIKI’s etc).
My $0.02 CAD
worth.
Duane
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From:
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Scott McGrath
Subject:
RE: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
Just a quick supplemental thought - internet
technology could be changing this landscape
(again).
I just purchased a standalone Skype phone
by Linksys / Cisco (not Skype thru the PC speakers et al).
The quality is dramatically better with Skype V2 than it was last year
on Skype V1.
OASIS could consider setting up local Skype
dial-in numbers in each member country?
The cost for each is modest. Maybe Cisco /
Skype could sponsor that for us?
DW
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Subject: Re: [chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
From:
Date: Mon, May 22,
2006 3:18 pm
To: "Scott McGrath"
<>
Cc: "'Barbara Erbes'"
<>,
Scott,
Michael
Winters, our IBM OASIS Board member is in favor of OASIS providing
telecomm services, as well. If OASIS is striving to internationalize
its membership more assertively, there should not be a penalty for
calling in from countries that today have the fewest
participation.
Don Harbison
Program
Director, IBM ODF Initiative
Business & Technical Strategy
IBM
Software Group
tel:1-978-399-7018
Mobile: +1-978-761-0116
email:
"Scott McGrath"
<>
05/22/2006 02:22 PM
To
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cc
"'Barbara Erbes'"
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Subject
[chairs] TC Teleconference Services
questionnaire
Reminder of the Teleconference
questionnaire. If you have replied – thanks. If not,
here is your chance.
Scott…
Chairs,
We’ve heard the dialogue on the Chairs
list about the problems Committee teleconference costs pose for members
– both for international participants who dial in and for member
organizations who volunteer to host calls.
OASIS is
investigating options for funding Committee conference calls out of
member dues. We have conducted a preliminary analysis based on postings
to our central events calendar, information from our member databases,
and the service quotes of several service providers. This research
indicates that the annual cost of providing fully internationalized
services for every call of every Committee, could exceed 10% of our
total operating budget (over 250,000 USD annually).
In light of the extraordinary costs involved, it is vital that
we take the time to fully understand the expectations and circumstances
of all our Committees, so that we might identify alternatives to manage
costs while still addressing the majority of your needs.
To that end, we’re asking a
representative of each OASIS Committee to spend five minutes answering
the following 16 questions on teleconference usage. We appreciate that
in many cases, the best you can offer is an educated guess.
That’s fine. Any information you provide—even if it
can’t be verified by detailed tracking or reports—will be
helpful to us.
Only one reply per TC or
Sub-Committee is needed, so please coordinate your responses with
co-chairs and secretaries.
Thank you in advance
for your time,
Scott McGrath
Director Member
Services
OASIS Committee Teleconference Requirements
Questionnaire
Committee Name: ODF
Adoption TC
(If you chair more than one Committee or Sub-Committee,
please fill out this questionnaire separately for each.)
About your
teleconference use:
On average, how many
teleconferences does your Committee hold each month? (4)
How many minutes does your average teleconference last? (60
minutes)
Approximately how many minutes was the
longest call your Committee held in the past year? N/A
About your teleconference
callers:
How many callers typically participate
in your teleconferences from:
__5__ North America
__3___
Europe
__1___Asia
__0___Australia
_____Other
Do you believe the expense of international
(country-to-country) calling is a limiting factor for OASIS Members to
participate in the Committee you chair?
As a new TC, we do not have sufficient experience to
respond.
If so, can you cite specific examples?
About your existing teleconference
support
Does a member of your Committee
provide teleconference hosting? Yes. If so, which member(s)? IBM.
If you are generally pleased with
the service your Committee uses most frequently, can you tell us the
name of the provider (and why you like them)?
If you are
not pleased with the service your Committee uses, can you tell us the
name of the provider (and why you are dissatisfied)?
Does the teleconference service provide toll-free IN-COUNTRY OR
INTERNATIONAL TOLL-FREE? access in some areas?
Does
your teleconference service provide local numbers in more than one
country?
Can you offer any advice about other services you tried and
discontinued?
Premiere previously provided
conferencing services, but IBM now uses its own VOIP technology and has
migrated to it.
About future teleconference use and
support
Given your current
situation and the impact to OASIS in doing so, do you think OASIS
should provide teleconference services, funded by member dues?
Yes.
If OASIS could provide only limited resources
to solve the largest problems inhibiting member participation, what do
you think reasonable bounds would be?
Indicate your
acceptance of the following suggestions, on a scale of 1 to 5
(5 Meaning you would accept the idea, 1 being you would not
accept the idea)
_5__OASIS would provide
international service with in-country dial-in for all Committees,
all calls.
_2_OASIS would provide a local dial-in line for the
country in which the majority of Committee members reside, others
members pay their international rates to dial-in.
_4_OASIS
would continue to encourage member organizations to host Committee
calls and covers the costs only when a Committee is unable to identify
a host.
_1_OASIS would encourage Committees to use free
conferencing services (such as freeconferencecall.com)
_1_OASIS
would not provide any teleconference service that will have a budget
impact
Any other comments or suggestions:
