Re: [chairs] This Old House (OASIS) - Further Response to Peter Brown

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Mike Edwards <>
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2010-04-28T21:27:39+00:00
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Re: [chairs] This Old House (OASIS) - Further Response to Peter Brown
"A neat house is the sign of a
wasted life"

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Date:
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Subject:
Re: [chairs] This Old House (OASIS)
- Further Response to Peter Brown

Oh, I think this is more like saying don't trust a
house builder whose 

toolbox is not neatly organized.  Maybe, maybe not.  I think
it is 

something that would need to be demonstrated, not assumed. 

I can imagine that creative chaos, in prescribed bounds, can be quite 

useful. The question is where do you draw a box around it and say,  "This

is an OASIS deliverable and we all need to be doing this the same way",

versus, "This is a TC working style detail"?  I think the
OASIS promise is 

in transparency and openness, that the messy day-to-day work is visible,

not that it is always pretty.

In any case, it is a trade-off, between the benefits of order and the 

administrative cost to monitor and enforce the order, or the technology

costs to acquire and support tools that enforce the order for us.

-Rob

Patrick Durusau <> wrote on 04/28/2010 04:49:06
PM:

> 

> Peter Brown asked about other areas that need improvement at OASIS.

> 

> I would observe that a standards organization should follow some 

> standard practice in how information about its work is stored. It

> does not reflect well on OASIS or the work of its TCs if every TC

> has its own methods for recording information about its work. Such

> as minutes for example. Minutes should have a uniform format. 

> 

> Moreover, information about the work of a TC should have a uniform

> location. Documents should be versioned in some uniform fashion. 

> 

> OASIS resembles a "This Old House" where rooms (TCs) have
been added

> on to the main house in a haphazard fashion and each one is 

> different that most of the others. 

> 

> That does not inspire a lot of confidence in the architect or in the

rooms. 

> 

> The argument will be made that TCs need the freedom to organize 

> their work any way they want. 

> 

> *BS* 

> 

> TCs need the freedom to develop the intellectual content to their

> work. That is not the same thing as being creative with *where* 

> information about their work is stored. Or the keeping of records,

> versions, etc. 

> 

> We do want people to find the information and have confidence in our

> work. Yes? 

> 

> To do that, we need to decide to remodel our "This Old House"
in 

> such a way that documents for every TC are in the same locations 

> (relative to the TC homepage), has the same version numbering, has

> the same structure for minutes, etc.. 

> 

> Now is the time since discussions are underway about a new technical

> infrastructure to support TC work. 

> 

> Personally I would like to see that infrastructure support and 

> require a work flow and structure that provides uniform access to

> the work of TCs. Save our creativity for the substance of our technical

work. 

> 

> It will take time to transition to a new way of documenting our work

> but having worked in several TCs, I have confident in the 

> contributing members of our TCs that they are equal to the task. 

> 

> Hope everyone is having a great day! 

> 

> Patrick 

> 

> PS: I will complain even if my ideas about organizing TC work are

> accepted the first time the process goddess makes me change the way

> I am doing something.  But, the purpose of standards is to 

> facilitate access, not make to me (or others) happy. 

> -- 

> Patrick Durusau

> 

> Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34

> Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps)

> Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300

> Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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