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Agenda for Code List Representation TC call 11 March 2022 15:00 UTC

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Agenda for Code List Representation TC call 11 March 2022 15:00 UTC
Agenda for Code List Representation TC call11 March 2022 - 9:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00 Central Europe
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TC Members
                presence and status at this meeting
              See https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=codelist
            
     
    

 

  
Pres.

  
  
Name

  
  
Organization

  
  
Status

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Kenneth
  Bengtsson

  
  
Individual

  
  
Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Erlend
  Klakegg Bergheim

  
  
The
  Norwegian Agency for Public and Financial Management (DFO)

  
  
Voting
  Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
James
  Cabral

  
  
InfoTrack
  US

  
  
Voting Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Andrea
  Caccia (chair)

  
  
Individual

  
  
Voting
  Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Ger Clancy

  
  
IBM

  
  
Persistent
  non-voting Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Pim van
  der Eijk

  
  
Sonnenglanz
  Consulting

  
  
Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Jim Harris

  
  
National Center
  for State Courts

  
  
Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Ken Holman

  
  
Crane
  Softwrights Ltd.

  
  
Voting
  Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Natalie
  Muric

  
  
Publications
  Office of the European Union

  
  
Voting
  Member

  
 

 

  
(X)

  
  
Levine
  Naidoo

  
  
IBM

  
  
Persistent non-voting Member

      
    
    
Presence
                      legend (X):
                      (P)=Present
                      (A)=Absent
                      (R)=Regrets
                      (L)=Leave of absence
                    
              TC Members possibly gaining
                              voting rights after this meeting
                        None
                                        
                          
                          TC Members possibly losing
                              voting rights after this meetingErlend, James, Natalie

 
                          Review of last call minutes

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202202/msg00002.html

in case minutes could not be approved during the meeting due to lack of quorum,
 they will be considered approved if no objection is received within 7 
days from now.

Confirmation
                      of Meeting Schedule
                  ------------------------------------------------
2022-03-25: 10:00MSP/11:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe

2022-04-08: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

2022-04-22: 09:00MSP/10:00Ottawa/14:00UTC/16:00Europe

Please note highlighted the changes in future meetings taking into account different DST

    

TC Deliverables
        planning
    -----------------------------------
    Agreed that we
      first should focus on the first two deliverables:
     - a semantic
      model / meta-model of genericode
     - an XML
      serialization of the genericode semantic model, with the intent of
      backward compatibility (or even no changes) to the existing
      genericode
     We need to look
      into how to express the semantic model of the existing markup
      vocabulary. What technologies should we look at and use?
      Further discussion is needed. 
    
    Semantic model
        / meta-model
    -----------------------------------------
    James
      volunteered for start looking into the  "semantic
        model / meta-model of genericode" topic and assessing if the fit
        of the metamodel to current Genericode specification.
      The NIEM metamodel should be analysed, Git repository: 
      https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00004.html
    Proposed
    extensions to the NIEM metamodel to support genericode features such
    as multiple columns and keys with mocked up example based on
    nc:LanguageCode that introduces 3 new elements to the NIEM
    metamodel, for discussion: 
    https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202106/msg00005.html
    
    Ken observed the following about the metamodel in light of the work
    being done in JSON:
    - it may be premature to continue work on the metamodel until we
    determine its utility in light of our earlier decision on JSON
    - earlier it was decided that the JSON syntax is only a
    demonstration subset of genericode so that users can tailor the JSON
    to their own needs
    - if we aren't going to create the entire genericode in JSON, what
    is the use of a metamodel?
    - already proposals are made to have different names in the JSON
    than in the XSD, so what would we have to do in the metamodel to
    identify semantics that are labeled differently in the two syntaxes
    - Ken proposed to suspend the metamodel preserving the work done so
    far and put our efforts into a parallel subset JSON and other
    responsibilities on the project
    This was agreed at the 30 July 2021 meeting.
    
    Genericode
        document editing------------------------------------------

The public review on CSD04 closed on Dec 4th.

One comment has been submitted:

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist-comment/202111/msg00001.html

Ticket: 

https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/CODELIST-1

Discussion on received comment:

Agreed that it is useful to provide guidance on the lifecycle of codes

Guidance should not be prescriptive to allow the standard to remain as general as possible

An informative annex seems the best solution to accomodate this guidance

Examples
 would be very useful, members of the TC are asked to provide possible 
candidates, for example Natalie and Jim may be able to provide real life
 use cases

The annex could encourage custodians of code lists to include lifecycle information

Examples were posted and a discussion followed, see:

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202201/msg00000.html

Agreed to keep the annex as proposed by Ken (see https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202201/msg00002.html) with a minor editorial change as agreed already on mailing list discussion.

Ken incorporated the Annex in  CSD05WD01-20220202-2113z for discussion:

https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202202/msg00000.html
Agreed to change the last sentence to "Therefore, this specification does not attempt..."

Agreed to include some excerpt of real life use of genericode with lifecycle clarifying they are only examples, TC members are asked to provide material for this.No suitable example was posted and it was agreed not to insert examples in the specification.Ken prepared CSD05: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/codelist/202203/msg00000.htmlNo comment received so far.

Important items for this meeting

---------------------------------------------- 

Requirements to proceed with the approval of genericode as a Committee Specification:

the TC is temporarly non compliant with the âMinimum Membershipâ requirement from OASIS to have at least 5 voting members, the TC needs to comply before the Special Majority Vote can start

The TC has to check that the issue raised during the public review was correctly addressed and resolved and approve the closure of the ticket https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/CODELIST-1

confirm that there are noi additional comments on CSD05 and that it does not introduce material changes if compared with CSD04 that has a public review.  

Therefore we require at least 2 meetings before approving the request to start the Special Majority Vote to allow at least one TC Member to gain voting rights.

The following questions are asked to all the attendees of todayâs meeting:

do you agree that the ticket https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/CODELIST-1 resolves the issue raised during the public review on genericode CSD04?

do you agree that CSD05 does not introduce material changes if compared with CSD04?

do you have any comment on CSD05 to be considered before requesting a Special Majority Vote to approve CSD05 as Committee Specification

The meeting will be opened 5 minutes before the scheduled time and kept open at least 10 minutes past the scheduled opening time (or up to the scheduled closing time if required for the discussion). 

In case you cannot attend please be prepared to provide your position or abstention on the questions. Attendance is needed to ensure the TC can comply with the âMinimum Membershipâ requirement

Use or
            potential use of Genericode
        ----------------------------------------------
      
      A question was raised to check about interest on having JSON
      serialization of genericode.
      Possible users to reach:
      - ISO RAs
      - source authorities listed in the ICD list based on ISO/IEC 6523
      - EU CEF
    
    Use of Code lists by OpenPEPPOL was spotted by Ken:
    https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00006.html
    They publish code lists both in XML and JSON and also using
    genericode.
    
    Use of genericode by the European Commission was identified with
    electronic invoicing:
    https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00007.html
    
    The EU Publication Office is using genericode:
    https://op.europa.eu/en/web/eu-vocabularies/e-procurement/tables
    
    The OASIS LegalXML Electronic Court Filing specifications v4 and v5
    use genericode. 
    ECF v4 is widely adopted among US state courts.
    http://docs.oasis-open.org/legalxml-courtfiling/ecf/v5.0/cs01/schema/
    
    Ken started a
      poll to gather input from potential stakeholders to investigate on
      use of JSON with Genericode:
     https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/codelist/email/archives/202105/msg00012.html
    
    According to the results reported until June 14th meeting minutes,
    JSON is used for internal use and not for publication.
    It was also observed that any JSON serialization would not be able
    to address XML features such as annotations and custom complex
    values in columns.
    
    The revision activities for ISO/IEC 6523 also started (ISO/IEC AWI
    6523-1 and ISO/IEC AWI 6523-2) with potential use of genericode can
    be foreseen for the publication of the ICD list by the ISO/IEC 6523
    RA.

New initiative from the European Commission, proposed EU Regulation on harmonised rules on fair access to and use of data (Data Act) with
 the aim of ensuring fairness in the allocation of value from data among
 actors in the data economy and to foster access to and use of data 
(see: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=COM:2022:68:FIN). 

In particular:

Recital 79: Reusable
 data structures and models (in form of core 
vocabularies), ontologies, metadata application profile, reference data 
in the form of core vocabulary, taxonomies, code lists, authority tables, thesauri should also be part of the technical specifications for semantic interoperability.

Article 28 - Essential requirements regarding interoperability

1.  Operators
 of data spaces shall comply with, the following essential requirements 
to facilitate interoperability of data, data sharing mechanisms and 
services:

...

(b) the data structures, data formats, vocabularies, classification schemes, taxonomies and code lists shall be described in a publicly available and consistent manner

    Other Business

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