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Re: [dita-lightweight-dita] Lightweight DITA CCMS based on Drupal
Over the weekend Kristof and I discussed this cloning mechanism
demonstrated in the video.He agrees with my concern but we had to
accept that we cannot put this genie back into a bottle; this is a
case of natural Web solutions becoming available whether or not
there is a standard. Also, we agreed that although Drupal is already
there with some mechanisms, our SC needs to define our
recommendations without dependence on one particular implementation.
We basically agreed to:
1. Encourage the SC members to view the video if they have not
already (do it! This is Very Important Stuff.)
2. Invite Kristof to a meeting for discussion and Q&A about the
existing modules and ways to associate clear text rules to
applications like Lightweight DITA
3. Seriously consider whether this alternative method of defining
nestable modules in Web applications might in fact become a new base
for Lightweight DITA or something we set on a parallel course with
it (meaning we could actually capture a wider range of structured
authoring use cases if they WEREN'T bound to the rather fixed legacy
DITA flow sequences--and when we talk about the Content Marketing
world, this is crucially important for capturing adoption). Kristof
can tell us more about the internal data format that effectively
enables this functionality--it is something that effectively
represents a new kind of generative grammar and parsing rules.
4. Test the heck out of our proposals using this already available
Drupal function.First, to help define that eventual "schema"
mechanism, and second to feed back suggestions for both new function
and concerns for development directions. Anyone can contribute
anything to this module as time goes on; how do we keep "good
enough" from morphing in a direction that breaks the contract we are
trying to nail down?
I suspect we need to move somewhat fast on 1 and 2 so that we know
how to coach the wider discussions around us that will surely
happen. This is seriously good stuff for anyone looking for a way to
create Adaptive Content. Compared to the 3-4 year old continual
referencing of NPR's COPE approach to that problem, this method is
way more flexible and deployable.
--
Don
On 3/30/2015 9:57 AM, Hudson, Scott
wrote:
I’ve worked with Kristof in the past to publish DITA
content through a Drupal site. I think it’s a very powerful
idea, but also agree with Don that there would still need to
be a way to validate the content against a schema. This
could be achieved through schematron / XSL, and you can also
restrict specific fields in Drupal for a content type. This
could populate the mandatory items, such as the title,
prescribe the metadata in the prolog, and any other items of
interest. You can also set the order of fields in a Drupal
document type, so you could have the content area within a
conbody followed by one or more sections (for example).
I certainly think it’s worth exploring, but also agree
that we need some way to ensure valid dita output.
Thanks and best regards,
Scott Hudson
Senior Consultant
Comtech Services Inc.
303-232-7586
From: Don R Day
Date: Thursday, March
26, 2015 at 6:55 PM
To: ""
Subject: Re:
[dita-lightweight-dita] Lightweight DITA CCMS based on Drupal
Michael may appreciate
my admission of acceptance earlier today in a tweet.
Note that there is a HUGE amount of work to turn a concept
into a production-level service--what we see here is
*feasibility*. Kristof can make it happen but his interest
survey shows that he is realistic about the anticipated
effort and the level of sponsorship he'll need.
Here is my more serious concern: The kinds of new Drupal
capabilities that Kristof demoed are extremely powerful for
anyone needing to develop modular information for adaptive
content delivery, but in the absence of a data definition
layer (like a DTD or Schema in even a simple form), there is
no prayer of a chance for content interoperability--The Web
According to Drupal, as I see it in Kristof's demo, has the
potential to turn into a Tower of Babel as it were.
Lightweight DITA will offer such a schema, but will it be
acceptable? I suspect the Web will need to invent something
with much looser validation within those editable chunks.
--
Don
On 3/26/2015 2:35 PM, Mark
Giffin wrote:
Kristof van Tomme, who has a Drupal
development company and is a DITA enthusiast, has come up
with an idea for a starter DITA CCMS based on Drupal. This
CCMS could use a Lightweight DITA mapping, so I am
throwing it on the idea pile for your perusal.
http://pronovix.com/blog/free-and-open-source-dita-ccms-modelling-arbitrary-xml-drupal
Mark Giffin
Mark Giffin Consulting, Inc.
http://markgiffin.com/
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